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BenPleysier
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March 18, 2017
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Foundation & CSS Grid: Think Beyond the Page

  • March 18, 2017
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8-Track vs Compact Cassette, Betamax vs VHS, Foundation vs Bootstrap. Notice how I have placed the better technology first and comparing that to the more popular technology? In case of the first 2, the latter has won. The jury is out on the 3rd one

Have a look here Foundation & CSS Grid: Think Beyond the Page | ZURB Blog to make up your own mind.

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    pziecina
    pziecina
    Legend
    March 21, 2017

    Just tested the css grid inspector in firefox, and it actually works, if you wish to try it yourself -

    https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspector/How_to/Examine_grid_layouts

    Rob Hecker2
    Rob Hecker2
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    March 18, 2017

    If I adopted GRID now I would lose every one of my clients. There is no mobile support. So I am one of those 'you can't use them' thinkers.

    My website structure doesn't work on Internet Explorer because of flexbox. Even though IE has very little market share now, I'm getting serious grief from clients over this. I adopted flexbox a year ago; probably a little too early.

    I have no fear of learning a new method, and I would love to start working with grid, but I can't see that happening in 2017 or even 2018. The fact that someone with a slightly older phone won't be able to render GRID two years from now is the problem.

    BenPleysier
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    BenPleysierCommunity ExpertAuthor
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    March 18, 2017
    If I adopted GRID now I would lose every one of my clients. There is no mobile support. So I am one of those 'you can't use them' thinkers.

    I do agree with you Rob, I think that Foundation is being very optimistic in their outlook. I only just now updated my browsers and my feeling is that IE11/Edge is far from ready.

    Having said that, browsers that do not recognise GRID will ignore it and if you design mobile first, GRID would probably not come into it. I am just theorising here,

    Good future prospects though.

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    pziecina
    pziecina
    Legend
    March 18, 2017

    The problem is not, "can i use", (pun intended) but is there an advantage to using, and if there is, how do we.

    Mobile devices have become the new ie6, or even the new netscape, for those of us who remember having to use html tables for layout. With thought, one could i think use grids by the end of this year, but like the move from html tables to css layouts, a lot more experiance and experimentation in using grids is required first.

    Without more examples of creating layouts, that are also acceptable when viewed on none supporting mobiles, no one who is not an expert in css will look at grids for years to come. After all people were still using html tables, and saying how easy they were to use 10 years after we started to use css for layouts, and the one thing i have learned over the years, is that people do not change willingly.

    pziecina
    pziecina
    Legend
    March 18, 2017

    Thank you for the article link Ben,

    As we have been discussing this for the last year for grids, and lots of years for flexbox. I don't think anyone will disagree with the conclusions made, (except maybe foundation leading the way ).

    The problem is, and always will be over comming the negative "you cannot use them' thinkers, such as those in the articles comments section. Over the next year we will I expect see negative articles also appearing, and as for Dw I am making no comments anymore.

    O
    osgood_
    Legend
    March 18, 2017

    Looks like Foundation is light years ahead of Bootstrap at the moment when it comes to Grid. Bootstrap is still trying to work out Flexbox amongst other things..........................before officially releasing v4...................humm.

    Oh well I may not even be doing this in a couple of years when I predict Grid will be the main stream way of constructing a website. I've already forgotten most of what I had learned about it. Same happened with Flexbox, learned it at a relatively early/mid stage, forgot all about it and had to re-learn when the time was right. Now its a workflow I always use. Same will probably happen to Grid if I'm still around. From what I recall it's not that difficult to get a simple Grid on the page and I have some examples in a folder somewhere........hey exciting times or relaxing ones, let's see.

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