Microsoft Web Expression VS DW

"flameout" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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>I downloaded Microsoft Web Expression Beta and have been favoriably
>impressed.
> I think they have been spending a lot of time looking at DW and borrowing
> the
> best. I am frankly surprised that this isn't like all the other fat-dogs
> that
> MS creates as programming tools.

I haven't looked at the Web Expression beta yet, but I have used VS.NET
2005 since it was a beta. FWIW, I wouldn't discount MSFT's programming
offerings as "fat dogs." Visual Studio is the best IDE I've ever used, hands
down: it's a deep and brilliantly implemented tool. If I could use VS.NET as
my primary editor for Adobe's Actionscript, I would.

-KF

> I strongly suggest each designer/developer to install and experience
> themselves. You have nothing to lose and ofcourse gain more just free.

How do you guys feel Expression compares to Visual Web Developer?

-Darrel

Ya,

Just finished downloading whooping 214 mb web designer from microsoft site, and installed without any hassle.

I had a little time to have a quick look. My quick look has given the judgement that DreamWeaver is going to loose the loyal community soon, if it will not take asp.net 2.0 support into consideration.

Web Designer comes with plenty of css templates and very good support of Css, XHTML and Asp.net 2.0 Master Pages, ASP.NET 2.0 Templates (DWT) and full visual support for all commands of asp.net 2.0. ( Buttons, Forms, Dropdowns, Links etc..... ). The CSS works great in IE and FireFox.

I strongly suggest each designer/developer to install and experience themselves. You have nothing to lose and ofcourse gain more just free.

Here is my My personal suggestion to those working on asp.net 2.0 and cursing DW8 for asp.net 2.0 support........................

Stop Cursing, start installing and experience the great tool totally free Till February 2007. May be DW8 comes out with a solution till then. And if at all it does not come out, you still have a much better tool and experience with you.

I will need some more time to explore web designer at length. After all an excellent combination of Web Designer and Visual Web Developer is the future for every successful designer/developer.

I do suggest other members to have hands on and post some remarks, so that others may judge/decide/benefit too.

Thanks

DotNetGuys

> wish wish wish DW/Macromedia/Adobe whoever
> would update DW for ASP.net 2, it would not take much to be able to go
> toe-to-toe with web expression.

It would take a lot of work. MS owns the technology. It's not like Adobe can
just integrate with ASP.net as seemlessly.

Anyways, a lot of folks want what you do.

Personally, Expression just seems like another reason for Adobe NOT to go
after that market. MS now has three web developer products out that support
ASP.net: VS.net, VWD, and Expression. One of them being completely free.

I'm no business expert, but, it seems to me that trying to compete head on
using a competitor's technology where the competitor already has 3 products
that support it and is giving one of them away for free is a futile
endeavor.

> Please... no need to chim in and say "use VS 2005". I do, its an 800 lb
> gorilla for most small to mid sites.

ASP.net is the 800 lb gorilla for most small to mid sites. ;o)

-Darrel

>I wish wish wish DW/Macromedia/Adobe whoever would update DW for ASP.net 2

I _highly_ doubt that this would happen before the next major release.

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Rob
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