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December 13, 2018
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'Typical'

  • December 13, 2018
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The only thing that is 'typical' is you locking a thread anytime you dont like what's been said.

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    pziecina
    Legend
    December 13, 2018

    What we should be asking, is why Dw does not offer proper support for many of the items/methods some of us bring up. I do agree with many of the off-topic posts, even though I disagree in the hi-jacking of a question, unless it is to offer some form of alternative, or suggestion for improvement.

    Without the off-topic alternative suggestions much of what is now possible in html, css and js would never be discussed. Even though Dw managment itself and some users may not wish for ideas for none Dw 'approved' methods to be suggested to users, the only way for Dw users to be informed about them, is via this forum.

    ALsp
    Legend
    December 13, 2018
    I disagree in the hi-jacking of a question, unless it is to offer some form of alternative, or suggestion for improvement.

    Well, the alternative methods you mention are usually not possible to present without causing a topic to go on a tangent. Why? because sometimes a proper (and often best) answer includes a non-Bootstrap/jQuery method, which goes against the group-think of this forum, thereby setting off someone or another.

    This hijacking is sometimes an excuse for locking down a conversation that gets uncomfortably beyond this forum's conventional wisdom (or lack thereof). But other times it simply requires everyone (myself included) to take a deep breath and remain reasonable and tolerant--- even if it requires tolerating a bad answer..

    pziecina
    Legend
    December 13, 2018

    AL, I did go on to say -

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    "Without the off-topic alternative suggestions much of what is now possible in html, css and js would never be discussed. Even though Dw managment itself and some users may not wish for ideas for none Dw 'approved' methods to be suggested to users, the only way for Dw users to be informed about them, is via this forum."

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    How, we solve the going off-topic, and still keep users informed of alternatives, is open to discussion, as I do not have an answer to the problem.

    Nancy OShea
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    December 13, 2018

    As far as I'm concerned, that thread ended at reply #20.  I'm glad Ben locked it.

    <Who gives you the right to judge if anything is helpful?>

    This forum gives that option to everyone including you.  I'm also a forum moderator and regular contributor in pretty high standing which  I think says I'm savvy enough to know which replies are on topic and most likely to be construed as helpful by a majority of product users.  As for the OP getting helped or not, I guess we'll never know because he disappeared -- no doubt put off by all the  useless banter.  

    Incidentally, most questions in other forums are answered swiftly & directly within 5-6 replies.  No tangents, no off topic banter, no noise.  How come this forum is so different from the rest?

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    pziecina
    Legend
    December 13, 2018

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Nancy+OShea  wrote

    Incidentally, most questions in other forums are answered swiftly & directly within 5-6 replies.  No tangents, no off topic banter, no noise.  How come this forum is so different from the rest?

    That's easy, most of the other forums don't have so many different ways of achiving the same end result.

    I am sort of in agreement with the going off-topic though, one maybe two posts about alternatives iI agree might be af use to the OP, but everything else I would prefer it if a seperate topic was created.

    BTW - I did not post code in the relevant discussion because I only had my phone with me, so I would have been unable to test anything I posted first.

    B i r n o u
    Legend
    December 14, 2018

    pziecina  a écrit

    That's easy, most of the other forums don't have so many different ways of achiving the same end result.

    I don't quite agree,...

    • practicing photoshop clipping can generate dozens of tracks,
    • manage document flows (while processing metadata) and project axes can also generate a bunch of different tracks under Bridge,
    • process colorimetric flows with PDF flows can also open different doors by using Acrobat,
    • operate on symbol-based SVG can also be approached in different ways under Illustrator....
    • and so on...I guess that you get the idea...

    and please, just, join these forums (I know that you're personnaly involved in many forum... and that you have nothing to sell, just your time, your passion and your long experience) and you will see that the tracks can often be multiple...

    I think there are just fewer balconies in these forums...

    osgood_Author
    Legend
    December 13, 2018

    Yes very helpful _osgood