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enfantterrible
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November 17, 2016
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Browser For Flash

  • November 17, 2016
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is there any broswer, major or minor ie a derivitive of Mozilla that is not hell bent on making the life of flash player users' difficult? and hopefully is commited to supporting the player as long as Adobe continues to support the Flash Player.

Our systems are mostly Windows 10, We use applications that run on the Flash Player for internal purposes and once in a while Firefox blocks the Flash Player even though the latest versiion is insalled, although we normally use the Flash Player dbug version.

is there some other alternative, I'm not thinking about?

Thx!!

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    jeromiec83223024
    jeromiec83223024
    Inspiring
    November 18, 2016

    If you're not happy with the fact that your browser of choice is making the Flash experience sub-optimal, and it's impacting your decision to continue using that browser, I would highly recommend that you voice your opinion to them.

    Out of curiosity, why do you normally use the ActionScript debugguer version?  We really don't recommend it for normal web browsing.  It's *far* slower, and it's not sandboxed, which increases your risk for contracting malware.

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    enfantterribleAuthor
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    November 21, 2016

    the first time Firefox refused to run Flash content on my system, I was a little frustrated, so I did write an email to the developers list, even though I thought I was polite, did not use bad language, nor did I attack anyone or any group / company, I was accused of flaming, which left me a bit perplexed. I had simply stated instead of making arbitrary decision for me because of some perceived security issues... they should address their own security issues first. At the time some software security software company (maybe Symantec) had published a list of identified security risk issues and they had ranked Firefox higher then Flash.

    I was frustrated because Firefox stopped running Flash content without warning or message of any sort. I understand why Google is doing it, they're interested in protecting their software ecosystem market place... but why Firefox is doing it.....?

    Running Flash content is not only about being able to watch movies, or advertising content... many business application were / are written to run in the Flash player, in our case we have some VMware software that runs in the Flash player.

    The reason I use the debugger version is because one of the applications we use is developed by us and maintained by us. But the issue has also happened with the regular flash player.

    jeromiec83223024
    jeromiec83223024
    Inspiring
    November 21, 2016

    Awesome, thanks for doing that.  Most browser vendors take feedback from their users very seriously (some are better than others about that, and it's reflected pretty clearly by the relative overall market share of the major browsers).  If you're reading this, and it's important to you to have a friction-free Flash experience, you need to voice that clearly to your browser vendor(s) of choice, and continue doing it.

    The reason I asked about the debugger, is that it really is intended for debugging Flash content, and not for general web browsing.  In 32-bit Firefox, it's not afforded the same sandboxing protections as the release player (this is necessary to make debugging work), it's slower on all platforms, and our bar for stability and quality is quite a bit lower, because it's an engineering tool and not a target intended for use by billions of people.

    In practice, when I'm developing a lot of Flash content, I keep a dedicated browser installed with the debugger, and use a second browser (usually Chrome, since it's installation of Flash Player is encapsulated from the overall system configuration) for general web browsing.  I just wanted to mention it, as the debugger does really degrade the performance and overall experience to facilitate the actual mechanics behind making the debugging process work.

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