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May 17, 2019
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ENOUGH for "flash 2020" already

  • May 17, 2019
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Just let people use flash player already, ENOUGH for chrome and firefox ending flash support in dec 31. 2020, ENOUGH for killing flash in the end of 2020, internet cafe and computer lab (include students) cares about flash so they can do whatever they want. Alot of popular youtubers like pewdiepie (who plays happy wheels in 2019 to stop t-series), markiplier, mattshea, and other small lets players plays flash games.

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Now what did nick.com and original club penguin do, they shutdown because of adobe announcement and i know that HTML5 games will be future of web games but i find it UGLY for example vehicles series (play2max version) on coolmathgames.com they KILLED the original game by vogd, and alot of web games that looks like crappy mobile games (Not the good version, the bad version)

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I mad at you adobe you ruin the entire internet and other artist or should called you "ADOBO"

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    Correct answer Robert Mc Dowell

    Don't worry, nothing is impossible in digital world. like before when open source project like gnash, today lightspark can easily replace Flash player so you can imagine that among millions users/developers some will find a way to continue to enjoy good Flash apps/games

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    Anonymous
    December 9, 2019

    Muchas gracias

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    bryanf3863389
    Participant
    September 30, 2019

    I HAVE A SOLUTION THAT CAN KEEP IT AFTER 2020 AND IT REALLY WORKS UNLESS I AM WRONG latter aw

      radubirsan
      radubirsan
      Participating Frequently
      November 1, 2019

      Can you share your solution, I am also working on such a project

      IceStone
      IceStone
      Participating Frequently
      September 20, 2019

      Hi, maybe this could be useful for you https://community.adobe.com/t5/Flash-Player/A-Second-Life-for-Flash-games-IceStone/m-p/10620534#M204201

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      Anonymous
      July 31, 2019

      Dear Flash Player, I don't want you to stop in December 2020 because i want the old websites and games back in the 1990s and 2000s.

        Robert Mc Dowell
        Robert Mc Dowell
        Legend
        July 31, 2019

        The time of the most creative because a lot of hope isnt'it?

        K3N_interwebz
        K3N_interwebzAuthor
        Participating Frequently
        July 16, 2019

        Hey, it me again sorry for making this post as a terrible person (feel free to hate me......i guess) i mean open source flash player (gnash, lightspark) was a better alternative than adobe flash. (originally known as macromedia flash) and they can replace it in dec 2020.

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        Also, how can i locked this topic caused i don't want to ask this anymore?

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        Test Screen Name
        Legend
        May 20, 2019

        I know we see the future differently Robert. I'm a glass half empty sort of person. I believe Adobe can and will do this, but you don't have to agree in that outlook.

        For "function doesn't exist" it shows the need to rearchitect. No end user is going to say "I won't play this game because it doesn't use the multicast port". And they won't say "I'm not going to buy tyres from this online store because it doesn't use the Netgroup class". I'm talking about whether businesses survive, and there is a lot at stake. Tech details change.

        Robert Mc Dowell
        Robert Mc Dowell
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        May 20, 2019

        > I know we see the future differently Robert

        This is the point, my comment is not my point of view, it's the reality of the market, which I don't agree to 100% of course, but hey,

        I'm only a developer, not a CEO of any kind of big corporation.

        > For "function doesn't exist" it shows the need to rearchitect. No end user is going to say "I won't play this game because it doesn't use the multicast port"

        well, is it the user developing or the developer?, if a company uses ip mullticast and netgroup with rtmfp that's because they don't have choice to use it or just create a massive bandwidth congestion in their private or public network. but there are many other cases that javascript just could not replace Actionscript. Ecmascript E6X filled all the gaps, but it's now up to the browsers to adopt it at 100% without any behavoir differences.

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        Test Screen Name
        Legend
        May 20, 2019

        Yes, but they have been given three years to get make clear the consequences to management or board, to be very clear that this will disappear (in some cases, closing down the business), and to get a serious budget, hire developers or consumtants etc. I don't say it's good that Flash is going away, but a 3 year warning is absolutely unprecedented in such cases. The world changes and companies often have to invest very large sums just to stay in business.

        I don't buy the "function doesn't exist" as an argument to not convert, especially if the alternative is the company is closing down. It means the project is bigger, needing to revisit the original need and rearchitect the whole thing - this is why it may take years.

        Robert Mc Dowell
        Robert Mc Dowell
        Legend
        May 20, 2019

        I don't agree with you, as your comment concerns your own opinion, which is absolutely not the opinion of thousands of companies/buesiness that live different situations and case that you can even don't imagine.

        As I'm saying since 3 years, you cannot force people to just stop to use a (good) technology for another (older) technology that is even not easier to use nor bigger performance (after my own long personal dev tests between JS and AS). As any kind of democracy users and developers must have the choice to use the technology of their choice, you like or not.

        If even all browsers and Adobe decided to give up the plugin concept, that's because they all together found a compromise that is win win for everyone. So what does it mean? if (weirdly) google/mozilla don't need profit to continue to hire developers, Adobe is a for profit corporation which means that just abandon a tech like Flash without a better tech and lose their users/clients is just a non sense. So they are working on it for sure.

        > I don't buy the "function doesn't exist"

        ok so please tell me what javascript function is the equivalent of NetGroup class and multicast fusion/ip connection, so I would be happy to convert my complex network scripts.

        K3N_interwebz
        K3N_interwebzAuthor
        Participating Frequently
        May 20, 2019

        Since im not mad anymore or losing my mind, we can finally see old and new flash games/animation and even flash website (i don't think anyone would ever make a website in flash anymore but it just my opinion) in the future if replacement of flash player will come .

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        Robert Mc Dowell
        Robert Mc Dowell
        Legend
        May 20, 2019

        A lot of companies/businesses like in education market use Flash as complex app that is simply impossible to convert since functions don't exist in JS or there are no budget to hire developers.

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        beadmaster
        Participant
        May 19, 2019

        I'm very sorry to be piggybacking on this post, but I don't see any post that's close to my problem and Adobe will not let me do anything more than reply to an existing post. (I can only search the forums, not post an original message. Support here was useless in trying to get help for this problem.) Mods: can you please make this an original post because this forum won't let me do it? Thanks.

        I keep getting a reminder from Adobe to install the Flash update. I installed this one sometime in 2018 and have installed it several times since. It's the same stupid version that it wants to me to keep updating. Well, installing it is futile, as all I get thereafter are reminders to install it and when I try to download, it's the same same same file, which is flashplayer32au_ha_install.exe.

        I imagine after many months of this crapola, we're well beyond version 32.

        So please tell me what to do with this, before I give up and turn off updates entirely. And I have my updates to notify me, because I don't want it to install without my permission. I know turning off updates isn't considered kosher, but if it's not installing anyway, updates are completely useless.

        Thank you in advance and sorry to OP for my having to reply to your message with nothing for you. I chose your message because at least it was answered and I wouldn't be confusing anyone!

          K3N_interwebz
          K3N_interwebzAuthor
          Participating Frequently
          May 19, 2019

          Well thank you

          T
          Test Screen Name
          Legend
          May 18, 2019

          Yes, Flash is going from EVERYWHERE. I have no idea what you mean "built in browser" unless it's this.... It uses Adobe's Flash Player, but like Microsoft it had bundled it with with the browser. It will stop doing that, and it will not use Adobe's Flash Player if you install it separately. Gone. Everywhere. 

          Is someone out there on the internet claiming Chrome will be immune? Because that will not only cause disappointment, it could stop game developers from bothering to make replacement games without Flash.

          K3N_interwebz
          K3N_interwebzAuthor
          Participating Frequently
          May 18, 2019

          Oh okay, how about ben latimore aka "bluemaxima" (creators of archiving old web games client called "flashpoint") will he ever work on google to replace flash? or will he ever make a Web browser?

          Robert Mc Dowell
          Robert Mc DowellCorrect answer
          Legend
          May 18, 2019

          Don't worry, nothing is impossible in digital world. like before when open source project like gnash, today lightspark can easily replace Flash player so you can imagine that among millions users/developers some will find a way to continue to enjoy good Flash apps/games

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