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[locked] Flash player crashes all browsers

  • October 24, 2009
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In the past few days Flash Player has crashed all the major browsers, Internet Explorer 8, Firefox 3, Opera 10, Safari, and Chrome.  Windows XP 64-bit.  If you want to witness the problem, go to http://www.canaan.jp/ and wait a few moments.  I have sent in as many crash reports as the browsers were able to generate.  I have also read so many entries in other forums that this problem is epidemic.  You are probably already nearly panicking over it, and well you should.  Your monopoly on streaming data is threatening to come crashing down around your ears.  You'd better fix it quick or become accustomed to the sound of peasants banging their pitchforks against the gates and howling for your heads.

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    EAhkinum
    Inspiring
    November 3, 2009

    Issue

    Firefox is crashing or closing unexpectedly

    Description

    Firefox has crashed 3 times today, when I was at facebook- yoville.com game. It is a flash game, which use to freeze and I would have to taskmanager kill firefox to get out of it. Now, everything freezes and tashmanger no longer will come up with ctrl+alt+dlt. Everything stops, I have to unplug power to computer now. Updated to firefox 3.5.4. last week, now taskmanager does not seem to work anymore and flash pluggin crashes everything. xp3/firefox3.5.4/facebook/yoville.com/flash10

    Crash ID(s)

    had to cut power, don't know?


    Firefox version

    3.5.4

    Operating system

    Windows XP


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    Mon 02 of Nov, 2009 08:53 PST                               

    ahkinum
    Firefox user

    My attempt day after Monday's post above.  Today being Tuesday, Nov. 3, 2009.

    Looked through info on tashmanager, none found on why taskmanager no longer appears when called ctld+alt+dlt; task manager freezes and does not show correct info of what's being running. (Actually someone said it might be a hacker disabling t.m., to bypass it? This being beyond my tech level to hypothesis .)

    • removed / re-added flash10, still had crashes.
    • removed / re-added firefox 3.5.4, still crash.
    • emptied cookies / cache. Did nothing for crash as I can see. Still happening in flash games, after about 10 minutes inside. Last time crashed at 5 minutes inside game, rebooted computer before this one.
    • updated xp3 patches earlier today from microsoft.
    • Did disk error check on reboot, don't know what this actually does or fixes if anything since it does not tell me or why a disk errored...?
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    TidusDaniel54
    Participant
    November 3, 2009

    I cannot even view the test site without my browser freezing.

    I'm running Windows 7 64bit, and firefox 3.5.4 freezes, as well as 32-bit IE8.

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    EAhkinum
    Inspiring
    November 3, 2009

    TidusDaniel54,

    Which test page are you testing at?  Is it the one here in adobe.com?  I went to the test page here in adobe.com for flash, show's working fine, but I still have crashing issues. Plus, added shockwave to see if that helped, but still crashing.  The test page link here at adobe.com, I find, is: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/   Is this the one you went to, is there another someplace?  This adobe link reads, in middle of address, for shockwave, but has flash image test there too.  My flash seems to being working fine there, but that does me no good out and about  :O) 

    ...aaahhhh...why-eee...why meee...?

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    AngryFlashUser
    Participating Frequently
    November 3, 2009

    Does anyone know if there is an alternative for the flash player?

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    gridsleepAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    November 4, 2009

    There is an open source Flash file player called Gnash, but it reports itself as version 7 or 8 so more recent Flash embedded videos still request that you install the latest Flash.  I think that might be an eccentricity of the site the SWF is installed in, not the player itself.  It may be perfectly suitable for watching SWF files stored on the hard drive.

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    AngryFlashUser
    Participating Frequently
    November 3, 2009

    Why the h*** is adobe not doing anything about this problem?!!

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    Marc_Blitz
    Inspiring
    November 3, 2009

    They're on a curry break!

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    Anonymous
    November 2, 2009

    Flash player has crashed IE8 on windows 7 for me 14 times in the last 3 days.  I found a partial fix for it under mozilla though.  I went into safe mode with networking after uninstalling flash10 and I reinstalled it in safe mode and low and behold mozilla works without crashing, but IE still crashes.  My computer has not crashed due to it though, just IE.

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    gridsleepAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    November 2, 2009

    I will have to try that.  Thanks.  It could be some minescule part of Flash is being corrupted during installation, possibly when being scanned by security software.  It is not crashing so much right at the moment, but it still brings the browser down and occaissionally crashes the entire computer.

    LATER: YouTube videos appear to be ok, so far, but http://www.caanan.jp and the video on http://www.3dgameman.com/reviews/1004/infrasonic-amon-usb-20-audio-interface still crash Flash within seconds.  Those two examples push Flash/Firefox to utilize over 90% CPU.

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    Marc_Blitz
    Inspiring
    November 2, 2009

    We've noted flash is NOT installing its payload on IE and Firefox as

    plugins properly.

    However, you can go to the flash/shock test site and all browsers work

    ok. Just when you go to places like Youtube, it falls over, on a regular

    basis, even IF you get it to work on a temp basis. I get sluggishness on

    HD video, then a cant connect, then flash is crashed and wont come back..

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    gridsleepAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    October 31, 2009

    After days of trial and error, Flash is still crashing unpredictably.  I use MSConfig to turn off all except Windows services.  Even after rebooting, Task Manager still shows AVG's avgcsrva.ese, avgrsa.exe, and avgchsva.exe running, so I stop those manually.  As close as I can tell, this is running as close to a clean installation of Windows XP 64-bit with MS updates as can be managed.  I have even tried it with no services running at all other than RPC, DHCP, and DNS to enable web access.  Flash still crashes Firefox and Chrome, sometimes the whole computer.  I am attaching the system information file for your perusal.  Also the latest memory dump file.  This is one of the most persistent problems I have ever come across.  And it just started happening right out of the blue, that's what I don't get.  I can't remember it starting immediately after installing anything or making any drastic system change.  I love problems like this, because I get to sink my teeth into it, and I hate them because I can't find a flipping solution, except to turn off everything in the computer, and that doesn't always work anyway.

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    Nonamez
    Participant
    October 31, 2009

    I use http://www.karanlikdunya.net ..work... very good

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    gridsleepAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    October 31, 2009

    Thank you, but I can't read Turkish and even the online translation sites do a very poor job.  But, thank you anyway.

    One thing I have noticed before any crash is that Flash (or rather the browser it is running within) can go to 70% or 90% of CPU usage.  This is a dual core Athlon 3.1GHz with 8GB of DDR2 RAM.  Even my video editing software never goes above 50% when encoding a DVD quality video at 200fps.  This should not be the usual behavior of Flash.  I have seen this on the aforementioned Caanan site, on a video review (#1004) on 3DGameMan.com, and on a couple of videos in YouTube.  Most other videos use between 5% and 35%, and those usually don't crash the browser or the system (usually--but they can.)  I am still looking for a serious answer to this unusual problem.

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    Marc_Blitz
    Inspiring
    October 24, 2009

    The link needs a translation into english. I dont speak Japanese.

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    gridsleepAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    October 24, 2009

    It doesn't matter what the web page says.  The language is of no consequence.  It is how the page functions when viewed.  It could be in Swahili and the same thing would happen.  The page crashes due to it being a big SWF.  It might take a couple of minutes or even five.  It and many other pages utilizing flash have crashed every browser I try.  I thought it might be just Flash 10 so I reinstalled 9, and then 8.  Same thing happens.  I am beginning to think this problem is viral.

    pwillener
    pwillener
    Legend
    October 26, 2009

    I have no problems with Japanese, but I fail to see what you want to show us on that page?

    When you say you think it's "viral", does it mean your system is infected?

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