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NPAAPI Plugin - PPAPI Plug-in

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June 6, 2014
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NPAPI PLUG-In Installed

PPAPI Plug-in Not Installed

Please explain.

Thanks

Beta channel

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NPAPI and PPAPI are types of browser plug-ins supported by Flash Player for various browsers.

NPAPI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Google Native Client - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Until recently, the PPAPI version of Flash Player was just a built-in part of the Chrome browser; however, we're now shipping a version of Flash Player debugger for PPAPI, which you can download from:

Download Adobe Flash Player 14 Beta for Desktops - Adobe Labs

As it is possible to have both NPAPI and PPAPI plug-ins installed on your system, we made a small modification to the UI so that you can see the state of both possible plug-ins.

sevengo8378

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Jeromie Clark Can not install PPAPI either.

The built-in version is 17.0.0.134, i download 17.0.0.141 from labs and then click to install.

Everything seems work well during installation. After that it is still the older version in chrome://plugins.

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lnc15

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HiWeird thing, it finally installed for some reason. I installed chrome a couple of weeks ago. Then the other day, it said it was available to download.

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NPAAPI Plugin - PPAPI Plug-in

created by sevengo8378 in Flash Player Beta Channel - View the full discussionJeromie Clark Can not install PPAPI either.The built-in version is 17.0.0.134, i download 17.0.0.141 from labs and then click to install. Everything seems work well during installation. After that it is still the older version in chrome://plugins. If the reply above answers your question, please take a moment to mark this answer as correct by visiting: https://forums.adobe.com/message/7310743#7310743 and clicking ‘Correct’ below the answer Replies to this message go to everyone subscribed to this thread, not directly to the person who posted the message. To post a reply, either reply to this email or visit the message page: Please note that the Adobe Forums do not accept email attachments. If you want to embed an image in your message please visit the thread in the forum and click the camera icon: https://forums.adobe.com/message/7310743#7310743 To unsubscribe from this thread, please visit the message page at , click "Following" at the top right, & "Stop Following" Start a new discussion in Flash Player Beta Channel by email or at Adobe Community For more information about maintaining your forum email notifications please go to https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1516624.

sevengo8378

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Anyone knows how to get trace output under PPAPI flashplayer?

I tried the way this thread says: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27791515/how-to-get-trace-output-from-ppapi-content-debugger-flash-player

But it not work.

I don't even see "show debug regions" item in right click menu.

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Anonymous

Any ideas ? This is pretty crazy. The debugger does not work even though installed into chrome and no console output. Way to kill the internet google. ! Let me know.

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Anonymous

Hi I can confirm Chrome is failing to install the PPAPI debugger. It will fail to come up in the list. Its trying to load the default one or /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/Flash Player.plugin instead instead.

I have tried 3 times and failed. The global manager also has no effect on it's security. It is a fact google likes to break the internet.

jeromiec83223024

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Yes, you're correct that the PPAPI Plug-In in Chrome doesn't talk to the native control panel. The NCP reads and writes to the central Flash Player config files, but the Chrome sandbox doesn't allow read/write access to those, so you have to manage everything from within Chrome. This is one of those trade-offs between usability and security, and we'd rather keep you protected from malware to the extent possible and have you use the older UI. It's the same reason that the config files for PPAPI have their own paths.

If you've disabled everything but the debugger in chrome://plugins and you're not able to get the debugger loaded, please let me know what OS and Chrome version you're using. I'll ask someone to take a look.

Thanks!

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lnc15

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Hi

is this plugin necessary? I am using Safari 8.0.2 and Firefox 34.0, on an Apple Mac OS X Yosemite 10.10.1.

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O-Minds

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Google Chrome is dropping support for NPAPI. Its PPAPI pepper plugin is now the default option.

This new plugin is what we'll have to live with in the future if we want to continue support for Google Chrome.

In my case, I maintain FlashFirebug which is a browser extension for Flash development on Firefox and Chrome, it's now broken on Chrome due to the PPAPI plugin. Although 95% of our users use FireFox, decisions like dropping a technology tend to go viral very quickly with Opera already on board

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lnc15

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Hi

thanks for the response.

so I gather that I don't need it.

appreciate your response

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O-Minds

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Adding mm.cfg here worked

%USERNAME%/AppData/Local/Google/Chrome/User Data/Default/Pepper Data/Shockwave Flash/System

But how does PPAPI handle paths? For example, if you wanted to add a PreloadSwf or wanted to change the TraceOutputFileName

Absolute paths obviously aren't working. Flash Player is either totally ignoring them, or it wants a relative path. But a relative path starting from where exactly?

jeromiec83223024

Community Manager

I'm not totally surprised. We may not be able to broker all of the requests to the local filesystem necessary to make those features work. The NPAPI and ActiveX debuggers are definitely more robust and well tested at this point. If you're just trying to get work done, that's probably a less frustrating path.

Please file bugs on anything that's not working over at http://bugbase.adobe.com/. We haven't had a ton of feedback on the PPAPI debugger at this point, so it's definitely appreciated.

If you post the bug numbers here, I'll get them assigned.

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O-Minds

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Hey Jerome,

The problem is, I don't know weather these are bugs or not as long as I'm unaware of how PPAPI player is handling relative paths. I'll try to sum here old VS new behavior with examples:

1. NPAPI
Path to mm.cfg (c:\Users\<username>\mm.cfg), mm.cfg contains a number of directives, path related ones are:

PreloadSwf=c:\some\path\flashfirebug.swf

TraceOutputFileName=c:\some\path\Logs\flashlog.txt

2. PPAPI

Path to mm.cfg which is undocumented as far as I'm aware (c:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Pepper Data\Shockwave Flash\System\mm.cfg)

PreloadSwf=flashfirebug.swf (absolute path is not working... if we use a relative path, to which folder will it be relative to? Where do we put flashfirebug.swf?)

TraceOutputFileName=abc\flashlog.txt (same thing, where would this be located?)

Regarding trust folder and paths, I think I had some bug, I'll retry JeanBonnot suggested folder and report back.

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Marko_Cetinic

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Any plans for Linux PPAPI debugger plugin?

jeromiec83223024

Community Manager

There's nothing currently scheduled.

Definitely feel free to file a feature request for it at bugbase.adobe.com, or from the community-driven Uplist: Feature request for Flash and Air - uplist

We watch both carefully.

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Marko_Cetinic

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Will do, thanks

jeromiec83223024

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Community Manager

NPAPI and PPAPI are types of browser plug-ins supported by Flash Player for various browsers.

NPAPI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Google Native Client - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Until recently, the PPAPI version of Flash Player was just a built-in part of the Chrome browser; however, we're now shipping a version of Flash Player debugger for PPAPI, which you can download from:

Download Adobe Flash Player 14 Beta for Desktops - Adobe Labs

As it is possible to have both NPAPI and PPAPI plug-ins installed on your system, we made a small modification to the UI so that you can see the state of both possible plug-ins.