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June 24, 2010
Question

Please STOP bundling McAfee with your Flash Player Update

  • June 24, 2010
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Many of us I.T. types for one reason or another have choosen

NOT to use McAfee in place of other (IMO better) products.  The McAfee scan product that you have bundled in

with your flash player updates install and leave files that interfere with the automatic updates for

Kaspersky.  After the Flash Product installes, I am then stuck visiting that machine in person running a special McAfee uninstall utility to remove McAfee even though it does NOT show up in the add/remove programs area of the control panel.  The flash updates do allow you to choose if you want McAfee installed, but unfortionatly, the default is to have that option checked.  For most unsuspecting corporate users, they don't see, care, or understand the impact of leaving that check box checked.  Please stop including that as part of the install.  For us corporate types trying to keep hundreds of computers working smoothly, we certainly don't need the automated headaches that McAfee brings with.

Regards

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Participant
October 22, 2010

Right now I am furious at Adobe for forcing software onto PCs without permission!

You have no right to do this just to line your own pockets with McAfee's money.

None of the  McAfee products are well written nor stable. I just did a remote service call,

the second this week to remove the McAfee jump from a clients PC.

What does it take - lawsuits?  I am sure they are coming and I would participate.

If you are going to include this crap on an update your should have that box un-checked

and let the client iot in if they wish. I am a computer professional and I am forced to use some of your products.

I do not like being forced to use 3rd party software that you push! Shame on you.

Inspiring
October 20, 2010

agreed!

adobe, whatever deal you cut w/ mcafee could not possibly make up for the loss in credibility you took by doing this. I have many client machines to keep track of, and I now get dozens of calls asking me what to do w/ the raft of crap mcaffee drags along with it.


so pull it! and fire the marketing type who pushed for it in the first place.


Participating Frequently
October 20, 2010

I am raging mad. Let me get this straight now adobe.... your freewares are so full of holes  and vulnerabilities that you bundled the worst anti-virus on the market  with it, causing more instablity? Mcafee is garbage, it will seriously conflict with many networks and/or other anti virus.

It's bad enough that adobe bloats my system with its acrotray and its copy protection and its DLM... all that is ridiculous enough, but THIS crosses the line way too far. Ninja installing a 3rd parties software on my system is a SERIOUS breach of trust.

I've dumped thousands of dollars into this company between CS and fonts etc etc. To get blind sided by a flash update is beyond comprehension.

WTF were you thinking install team?

Inspiring
October 20, 2010

adobe you shady louses.

check twitter. the community is not happy with you:

http://twitter.com/#!/search/mcafee%20and%20flash

your image is being shattered. seriously do you have any concept of how annoying this is on top of Flash CS5 corrupting files?!?!?

cflnest
Inspiring
October 20, 2010

Stop the bundling: most of us don't need more bloatware on our systems (especially if we are running Adobe Creative Suites)!

This time I didn't unclick the install McAfee option quickly enough and now I'll have to uninstall the damn thing.

Annoyances such as this make me hope that newer web standards (and Apple) really will cause Flash to go away...

Participant
October 20, 2010

Good luck with the uninstall.  If it does show up in the add/remove programs area in the control panel, the uninstall process doesn't totally clean it up.  You will need to run the McAfee Cleanup Utility in order to totally remove it so that other (non McAfee products such as Kaspersky) will properly install and work.

cflnest
Inspiring
October 20, 2010

I had already assumed that removing McFee might be ugly: System Restore failed (as usual) and McFee installed a start-up program which disabled Norton.

Thankfully on the McFee site there is actually a Flash tutorial on the proper use of the removal tool!

http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx?id=TS100507

As others have reported, the removal tool does not always completely uninstall all traces of the McFee software. Even after I ran the removal tool twice, the start-up program was still loading on my XP system, so I had little choice but to go on a search-and-destroy mission in the registry.

I've uninstalled the Flash plugin from Firefox for now. If I find that I don't miss Flash, I'll consider removing it entirely from all my systems.

I haven't generally allowed software auto-updating, but I thought that I could trust Adobe: certainly not anymore.

Participant
October 14, 2010

Yeah, I have also suffered from the inadvertent installing of McAfee. It turns out that Adobe sneakily repositioned their checkbox for unchecking the McAfee install. It's bad enough that the checkbox is checked by default, but recently, they have resorted to moving the checkbox from the middle of the page (where the download and install button is) to the right side of the page (where most people do not glance when installing software). That was why I missed the checkbox. This is very misleading, as most people read from top-to-down in a webpage. I suspect Adobe moved the position for this reason. Anyways, I don't really have a solution, besides lingering on the page longer before installing Adobe software because you know they like to bundle McAfee.

Participant
October 12, 2010

Amazing that a company in this day and age still does this. I expect this kind of behavior from a shareware piece of crap software but cer

tainly not from a mainstream "Adobe" product.

I'm pretty good at "unselecting" options but I don't know how I missed this one. In other words, not only did I have to use your pathetic download manager... (My Firefox has a perfectly good download manager and add-on manager) but your program installed the VIRUS called McAfee Virus scanner WITHOUT my permission.

Keep that crap off of my machine if you do not want a class action suit.

If I'm required to use your download manager and install McAfee the next time I do a simple update then I'll certainly uninstall and never look back.

Get over yourselves, Adobe. Your time has come.

Participant
October 7, 2010

Really annoyed that it installed McAfee *without my permission*  I consider this a breach of my privacy - but I guess they have more money to spend on lawyers than I have.

Known Participant
October 7, 2010

Comments about knowing how to work around it are less than helpful. That's like telling someone how to fix a flat tire rather than working on preventing it in the first place. And anyone working in IT would also struggle with the fact that running Windows with permissions less than admin causes all sorts of issues except in cases of very basic needs. Further, not all networks have 100's of users running multiple servers and Active Directory and centralized policy management. As an added 'bonus', the most recent upgrades to Firefox will nicely direct you through an otherwise normal update that also adds McAfee. For all I know this little free app is reporting what I use to McAfee as it checks my system and that would certainly be none of their business!

I DON"T WANT THIS 'ADDITIONAL' STUFF FROM ANYONE - nor do most people I know.

This is simple.

NEVER bundle an application with another in this manner - especially as a default and with without option to not install. If you insist on offering these types of add-ons etc, a checkmark should alway be present in an UNCHECKED state so that the average user will not install it unknowingly. Adobe - or any other vendor (are you listening Java?) have NO right to install software on a user's computer without permission. An automatic install is clearly in violation of this and a pre-checked option is in poor taste - feeding on many who are not "IT" gurus.

PLEASE STOP IT!

Participant
September 25, 2010

Totally agree.

@Adobe: Stop installing crapware.  You never asked my permission to install it.  You have violated my trust and it will be a long time before you will be forgiven.  I will now take any messages/updates I see from you with a grain of salt, and be very wary when allowing you access past UAC.