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September 8, 2007
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ADOBE FLASH MEDIA SERVER "JUSTIN TV" HELP

  • September 8, 2007
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Hi guys , new to the forum and to live streaming i have some questions i need someone to answer and the guys who i have building my site are stuck when it comes to live streaming , as for me i know nothing at all about it, so hear goes.

Justin tv in the USA are broadcasting 40+ Live streaming webcams 24/7 using flash , they are getting about 3000-5000 hits at one time yet seem to have no backing or sponsership, am i right in thinking the amount of bandwidth this site is using would look something like 10TB a month?

This would cost ££££££££ a month to run the site?


Obviously they are not paying this , so could somebody enlighten me towards how they are doing it on such a budget..


I want to build a site with 5 live streaming cameras and (more to come) a bit like Justin Tv i want to be able to broadcast around the clock 7 days a week as and when i please (but not 24/7)..
when the site is launched i expect to get between 1000 and 5000 hits per day and the users will be watching for no more than 60 minutes.


could someone tell me the best way and cheapest way to do it using Flash

Will i need my own dedicated server (looking at MT media temple)
how fast will my internet connection need to be?

what tools will i need to set something like this up , sorfware/hardware.


please can someone help us build a monster.

JK
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    Participant
    September 13, 2007
    software:
    FMS $ PRICY but the best!
    WOWZA $ CHEAPER than FMS but not as good as (in my experience)
    RED5 FREE but youll have to work your way around NO SUPPORT and less (if not missing) documentation

    Hardware
    you will need some load balance configuration
    on your servers
    i recomend at least 3 servers for FMS 1 origin license and 2 EDGE ( like 5k users)
    would recommend a colocation center to put your servers
    you pay montly fee but you are certain that you have your servers up and runnig with no connectivity issues
    and a webserver

    this is just computer side
    now...
    you need at least 1 IT guy to configure your servers and let them run flawlesly
    another person to prepare your FMS application to handle everything that you would want
    and the rest to finish up your web page

    lots of dollars on a nice web cam and mobile data roaming (not to mention you will need to write your app to allow you to stream your live cam)

    any more help... just mail me our PM

    (check out this website www.x1fmradio.com (we do live streaming with FMS) audio/video)
    Known Participant
    September 9, 2007
    >could somebody tell me the whole process of how we do this,

    Yes - you go and hire yourself an experienced professional (or two).
    Participant
    September 12, 2007
    quote:

    Originally posted by: DanielKozimor
    >could somebody tell me the whole process of how we do this,

    Yes - you go and hire yourself an experienced professional (or two).


    Agreed....either hire an expert or do the research...its all available...nothing comes for free.

    Also, you may need someone a little more heavyweight on the software engineering side than an amazing PHP developer if you're interested in heavy bandwidth utilization optimization.
    September 8, 2007
    They've actually gone through a number of different approches... see article here:

    http://www.flashcomguru.com/index.cfm/2007/8/3/Behind-the-Scenes-of-Justintv
    Participant
    September 9, 2007
    Hi Jay thanks for the reply, i have read this artical and many others about JTV but being new to the hole process i understand nothing about how easy/hard it is to do.
    The situtuation we have is we have a team of 9 people wanting to put a project together which would certainly be front page news all over the world , we have a amazing PHP developer, 2 designers and can put our hands on state of the art equipment 24/7.

    our idea we can only give a year before someone puts two and two together so we need to get set up and running, the problem we have is nobody hear knows anything about live streaming, how it works , or how to set it up and broadcast to the masses , and it's causing us all a massive headache..

    our project can be up in two weeks with all of us on board , what we don't have is the know how on streaming.


    I have rang several live streaming companies (not telling them my idea, cause they will pinch it) , but i have asked them questions which would answer my problems without giving the game away.

    all of them tell me the same thing , if i want to live stream a project on the net with an audience of 1000-5000 per day it's gonna cost me a fortune.
    Looking at JTV i now know this is not true, it can be done at low cost.


    I know somebody can help us which is why i am on hear, i know nothing about computer programing or web design and my team know nothing about live streaming so we need some simple questions answering.


    Q1. we want five live streaming cameras to broadcast on our site 24/7 using the adobe flash media server software, how do we go about this without hiring a streaming company?

    we expect traffic on our site to be 1000-5000 people at any one time watching our site (in the first week)

    we want to be able to turn the live feeds on and off as and when we please.



    could somebody tell me the whole process of how we do this, exactly what software we need, what size server , how powerful our internet connection needs to be?
    Or better still give me the name of somebody who can talk us though this.


    thanks

    JK