Can AMS establish persistent https connection?

So from what I can tell, FMS just isn't set up to do this. It looks like if you want security they want you to use rtmps through ssl. There may be some other ways to do it, but https doesn't seem to be officially supported and I can't find anyone able to do it successfully.

The WebServices class definitely can't do it. I tried the LoadVars class, which works great on an http page, but fails to do anything with https. It won't even throw an error.

here's a few random pages I looked through, though none of them give any solid info:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/773705 - says it's possible to flash but the config xml stuff they're talking about seems to be just for rtmps, not https

http://forums.adobe.com/message/3704669 - also says it's possible to do dual connections, one https, but looks like they may have meant rtmps instead of https

these guys seem to be saying it's not possible:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5619776/webservice-and-fms 

//seems to think it can be done, but again, looks like they're talking about ssl over rtmp

http://nycphotoshop.groups.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=post.display&postid=5194

someone trying to make it work but never does:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/782037?decorator=print&displayFullThread=true