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Participating Frequently
Jan 27, 2014 10:36 PM UTC
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ATM Deluxe compatibility with Windows 7 64 bit?

I've happily used ATM Deluxe 4.1 (build 243) with Windows XP SP3 for many years and am about to upgrade to Windows 7.

Has anyone successfully (re)installed ATM under W7? (32 or 64 bit) I'd like to continue using ATM, rather than going to a 3rd party font manager & recreated my various font sets.

Intel Core Duo CPU @ 3 GHz + 4 GB RAM; NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT video card.

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Dov Isaacs
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Jan 27, 2014 11:52 PM UTC

Sorry, but ATM is totally incompatible with any 64-bit version of Windows (including Windows XP). It is also incompatible with all versions of Windows beyond Windows XP 32 bit (such as Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8.x).

Don't even try installing it. Even if you think you've succeeded, you may find that you have “bricked” your OS and would need to totally reinstall it.

          - Dov

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)

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Dov Isaacs
Dov IsaacsCorrect answer
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Jan 27, 2014 11:52 PM UTC

Sorry, but ATM is totally incompatible with any 64-bit version of Windows (including Windows XP). It is also incompatible with all versions of Windows beyond Windows XP 32 bit (such as Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8.x).

Don't even try installing it. Even if you think you've succeeded, you may find that you have “bricked” your OS and would need to totally reinstall it.

          - Dov

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- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
Inspiring
Jan 28, 2014 12:31 AM UTC

On the 64-bit side, what Dov said.

On the 32-bit side, it is quite possible to hack an ATM install it on Vista, and not even very hard. I actually documented it on behalf of Adobe back in the day. I don’t know it if would work or blow up on Windows 7 or 8, and given that we don’t know, there is a real risk of damaging your OS.

(On Vista 32-bit, all you had to do was copy over the installed ATM files, and the app would run just fine. You just couldn’t run the ATM Deluxe installer on Vista.)

Of course none of this is supported or actively recommended by Adobe or me. Even the 32-bit Vista hack was “this appears to work, try it at your own risk.” Though I ran it myself for several years with no trouble. 

Frankly, the ONLY reason I would even try such a thing today is if I or somebody desperately needed the ability to create and use Multiple Master font instances. That is the only thing you totally can’t do with anything else, and itself might or might not work with current apps, even if the functionality worked in ATM Deluxe. I am pretty sure Adobe apps removed MM support years ago, not so sure about third parties, including Windows itself.

So there you go. If you are in the market for a font manager today that is actively developed and maintained, there is always our product here at Extensis: Suitcase Fusion. (Or for client/server needs, Universal Type Server.)

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Participating Frequently
Jan 28, 2014 1:27 AM UTC

Thanks, Dov and Thomas for your replies - much appreciated.

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