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Thomas Phinney
Inspiring
Oct 19, 2003 5:36 PM UTC
Question

Creative Suite vs. InDesign CS vs. Illustrator CS bundled fonts

This is a complicated issue, which I hope can be clarified by this summary.

With InDesign CS by itself, there are 66 fonts, many of which are new for the CS version. Apparently these are included with the educational version as well. This includes fonts from the Adobe Jenson Pro, Lithos Pro, Myriad Pro and Trajan Pro families. See here for a complete list:

Thomas Phinney, "InDesign CS bundled OpenType fonts" #, 18 Oct 2003 12:26 am">Thomas Phinney "InDesign CS bundled OpenType fonts" 10/18/03

With Illustrator CS by itself, there are 102 fonts, about 31 of which do not overlap with the fonts bundled with InDesign CS. This includes fonts from the Chaparral Pro and Charlemagne Std families. See here for a complete list:

Thomas Phinney "Illustrator CS bundled OpenType fonts" 10/18/03

The other CS apps do not individually add meaningfully to the bundled font count.

However, with the Creative Suite as a package, there are up to 211 fonts: the 138 fonts included with the individual apps; the Warnock Pro Opticals set (32 fonts); plus if you register online in the US and Canada, you can download the Brioso Pro Opticals fonts (42 fonts). Note that Brioso is one of several choices you have of registration incentives, and you need to be sure to look for and follow the link! You can get it later from your main store registration page if you miss it the first time, though.

The standard edition and premium edition of the suite have the same font bundle.

Details on the full bundle are here:
Thomas Phinney, "211 OpenType fonts available with Creative Suite" #28, 18 Oct 2003 11:07 am">Thomas Phinney "211 OpenType fonts bundled with Creative Suite" 10/18/03 11:07am

Regards,

T

Thomas W. Phinney
Fonts Program Manager
Adobe Systems
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    Thomas PhinneyAuthor
    Inspiring
    Nov 6, 2003 11:41 PM UTC
    That's a nice reference. You might want to delete the ".otf" extensions in the middle column (or add them to the other two columns) just for consistency.

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    LRK 2
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    Nov 6, 2003 5:45 PM UTC
    Here is a rough table I put together that helps compare what fonts you get with each:

    http://graphicspalmbeach.com/forum/fonts/fonts.html
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    Thomas PhinneyAuthor
    Inspiring
    Nov 5, 2003 12:08 AM UTC
    Yup, it's the whole set, including also the two "Poster" fonts.

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    BobLevine
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    Nov 5, 2003 2:58 PM UTC
    Yes, 42 in all and it does include the poster fonts.

    Bob
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    Neil_Keller
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    Nov 4, 2003 11:04 PM UTC
    Pam,

    According to Thomas, it's Brioso Pro Opticals fonts (42 fonts).

    That's a lot of type to drop on the composing room floor!

    Neil
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    _Pam_Bishop_
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    Nov 4, 2003 10:40 PM UTC
    Well, Neil, you have the right of it. For curiosity's sake, does the gift copy stipulate the complete opticals? I suppose I just didn't read closely enough.
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    Neil_Keller
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    Nov 4, 2003 1:55 PM UTC
    On one hand, I went there just for the free fonts. After reviewing the choices, that was still my first choice.

    Adobe says "choose one." All I can say is let your conscience be your guide.

    Neil
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    BobLevine
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    Nov 4, 2003 3:39 PM UTC
    > Adobe says "choose one."

    Correct. But they didn't say how many times.

    Bob
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    _Pam_Bishop_
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    Nov 4, 2003 1:24 PM UTC
    Don, Thank you very much indeed for that tip. I'm delighted. Did not shoot myself--cats objected, didn't want to be put to the trouble of interviewing for another caterer.
    Again, Thanks.
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    D__McCahill
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    Nov 4, 2003 3:14 AM UTC
    Pam. Did you shoot yourself yet? I hope not. Read the thread about 212 Open Type fonts first ... at least the last 10 messages ... it is a long thread. Someone else order the mag, and reveals how to get the fonts as well.
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    _Pam_Bishop_
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    Nov 4, 2003 1:39 AM UTC
    42 Brioso opticals? I'm going to shoot myself. I registered CS Premium online, didn't read the copy about the gifts closely enough. Having previously purchased the complete Brioso Pro package plus Poster Light, I thought I was eschewing redundancy by electing the magazine! Oh for the Opticals! And I think Brioso, both Roman and Italic, is Robert Slimbach's masterpiece. It preexisted in the ether somewhere as the Platonic idea of a certain Renaissance type-form, somehow already familiar when given digital substance.
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    Just_A_Mac_Guy
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    Oct 21, 2003 12:09 PM UTC
    Your efforts are appreciated, Thomas...
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