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Thomas Phinney
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August 11, 2003
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Font Folio OpenType Edition

  • August 11, 2003
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Press Release Source: Adobe Systems Incorporated

Adobe Announces OpenType Edition of Font Folio
Monday August 11, 8:12 am ET
New Version Offers the Adobe Type Library in Enhanced Cross-Platform Font Format

SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 11, 2003--Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE - News), the leader in network publishing, today introduced a new version of Adobe® Font Folio(TM) featuring the Adobe Type Library in OpenType® format on one CD-ROM. The Adobe Font Folio (OpenType Edition) product contains more than 2,000 fonts in OpenType format, which allows for richer linguistic support and more advanced typographic control in any print, Web or dynamic media project. Adobe also announced the availability of a new special version with a 10-computer license, making it more affordable for small design shops to access the entire Adobe Type Library.

Adobe and Microsoft Corporation created the OpenType font format to improve cross-platform document portability and simplify font management, by introducing one font file that works on both the Macintosh and Windows platforms. Creative professionals benefit from extended foreign language support and the inclusion of expert typographic glyphs, such as small caps, old style figures and swashes, in many OpenType fonts.

"The OpenType font format is much more convenient than the old Type 1 or TrueType fonts," said David Blatner, co-author of Real World InDesign, InDesign for QuarkXPress Users and Real World Photoshop. "With Adobe's new Font Folio in OpenType format, I love having large character sets in the same font instead of having to work with a whole array of related font files."

Pricing and Availability

The Adobe Font Folio [OpenType Edition] product is available immediately and will be sold primarily through the Adobe store at www.adobe.com, Adobe retail and licensing channels, and includes a standard 20-computer license for US$8,999. License extensions are also available and Font Folio is included in Adobe's transactional and contractual licensing programs. Upgrade pricing from Font Folio versions 8 or 9 to Font Folio OpenType Edition is US$2,499. Adobe is also releasing a special 10-computer license of Font Folio OpenType Edition for smaller design workplaces that is available for US$4,999. International English versions are available where localized versions are not sold.

Full Press Release:
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200308/081103FONTFOLIO.html

Product page: http://www.adobe.com/products/fontfolio/main.html

List of all the fonts is here.

More information on compatibility and differences between the OpenType fonts and their Type 1 counterparts is here. Look in the right-hand column for links to the two cross-reference documents, and the font conversion FAQ.
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    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    September 12, 2006
    Thanks for your comments, Dov.
    Dov Isaacs
    Dov Isaacs
    Legend
    September 12, 2006
    As I indicated earlier, no one in Adobe Customer Service or Tech Support was told that our font products are incompatible in any way with the MacTel systems. Those folks unfortunately made unwarranted assumptions; we are already working on getting that problem fixed.

    I did see the post in Macfixit. In terms of the application programs themselves, until we have the universal binary versions, unfortunately we cannot officially support use of Mactel although some users apparently (both inside and outside of Adobe) seem to be able to use the applications with only minor inconveniences. Believe me, we have plenty of folks internally within Adobe chomping at the bit for real MacTel support. It is unfortunate that Mac users were led to believe by the hardware vendor that (a) Rosetta was a perfect Intel x86-based emulator of the PowerPC and that (b) it was a simple matter for Mac application vendors to recompile their software and voila universal binary versions. Neither is true!

    - Dov
    - Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
    MichaelKazlow
    MichaelKazlow
    Legend
    September 13, 2006
    Dov,

    You mean there is no magical switch ;-) When creating Rosetta, Aple
    should have contacted the people that designed II in a Mac. That fine
    piece of software that I bought for my Mac Plus running system 3.2 was
    still working when I was running my PowerPC running system 8 and I
    think I once booted in it in System 9. Now that was well designed
    emulation software.

    Mike
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    September 12, 2006
    Dov,

    Check this out, please: Adobe Expert support not answering questions regarding Intel-based Macs CLICK HERE

    It appears to be more widespread than just a single customer service person being unfortunately uninformed. It has spread to Tech Support, at least in regards to Adobe applications. It would not surprise me if it extends to fonts.

    A lot of folks are unhappy with Apple over the first wave of Mac-Intels.
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    _steven_schwartz
    Participant
    September 11, 2006
    It was an Adobe customer service person who told me they could not guarantee usage on Intel Macs! I initially looked up the operating system requirements for the Open Type library and noticed Adobe listed Power PC Macs but not Intel macs. I thought this was odd so I decided to give Adobe a call to confirm support for Macintel machines. Maybe I got an uninformed service person or perhaps they were unclear about my question but I tried to make it as simple as possible citing the lack of mention for Intel Macs under system requirements for the Open Type Library on their web site. By the way Quark now has a Universal binary version...I haven't heard any comments about how well it runs (I suspect buggy as usual) but they do cite Universal binary for this version. Thanks for clearing up this issue. Adobe should change their web site to list Macintel as supported for the Open Type Library. Adobe has very solid programs which have yet to be re-written as Universal binaries but the fonts should be listed as Universal if they run on Macintel. I suspect the upcoming versions of Adobe Universal programs will be quite good and look forward to their release.
    Dov Isaacs
    Dov Isaacs
    Legend
    September 11, 2006
    The customer service person was indeed unfortunately uninformed. For better or worse, there was no such thing as a MacTel when the OpenType Font Folio was released and this type of material (pun intended) is not updated that frequently. I'll pass along the info to the type folks to correct. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

    - Dov
    - Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
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    _steven_schwartz
    Participant
    September 11, 2006
    I'm new to this forum so please forgive my off topic post. If hardware is not the issue do you know why Adobe won't guarantee compatibility with Macintel? They only post Power PC as compatible processor for Mac on their web site and when I called and asked them why Macintel processors were not listed I was told they can not guarantee compatibility?
    Dov Isaacs
    Dov Isaacs
    Legend
    September 11, 2006
    Who told you that Adobe "won't guarantee compatibility" of its OpenType fonts with MacTel systems? It is the PowerPC-based applications that have yet to have "universal binary" versions released and are not officially supported by Adobe on MacTel systems, not system resources such as fonts and color profiles!

    - Dov
    - Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
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    _steven_schwartz
    Participant
    September 11, 2006
    Does anyone have experience using the Open Type Edition Adobe Library with a new Intel Macintosh? Adobe won't guarantee this will work with the new Intel macs and Apple also says there are some issues with certain fonts causing problems with Quark and MS Office. I'm looking at adding a new intel mac to my workgroup next year and also looking at purchasing the Adobe library. Any real world experience out there with the library and an intel mac?? Thank you.
    Dov Isaacs
    Dov Isaacs
    Legend
    September 11, 2006
    (1) If you have a new question, please start a new thread.

    (2) There are no known issues with Adobe's OpenType library that are particular to the MacTel systems. In other words, any QuarkXPress incompatibilities with OpenType fonts are not Mac hardware platform specific.

    - Dov
    - Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
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    Neil_Keller
    Known Participant
    August 2, 2006
    Thanks, Thomas.

    Otherwise, I see slight rises or falls in their relationship to the baseline when using all caps as looking like a mistake.

    Neil
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    Thomas PhinneyAuthor
    Inspiring
    August 2, 2006
    No, because the default forms do not go significantly below the baseline - that's what makes cap forms of the questiondown and exclamdown useful.

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    Neil_Keller
    Known Participant
    August 2, 2006
    Then shouldn't there be both "upper case" and "lower case" question marks and exclamation points?

    Neil
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    August 2, 2006
    :D
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