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From Apple and Extensis: Font management under Mac OS X

  • February 21, 2003
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Apple Computer and Extensis have free PDF documents aimed at answering many questions about using and managing fonts under Mac OS X.

Click on this link for your copy of Apple's: Using and Managing Fonts in Mac OS X -- A Guide for Creative Professionals.

This technology overview covers:

Best Practices for Font Management
Managing fonts manually
Using a font manager
Organizing fonts for a font manager
Useful font utilities
Preparing Your System
Removing nonessential fonts
Appendix A: Fonts of Mac OS X
Appendix B: Font Support in Mac OS X
Appendix C: Font Locations in Mac OS X
Appendix 😧 Mac OS X and Unicode


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Click on this link for your copy of Extensis's: Best Practices for Managing Fonts in Mac OS X

From Extensis: "This document contains detailed recommendations and instructions that can help you work efficiently with fonts in OS X, configure your system to minimize font problems, enhance your workflow."

Feel free to post feedback/augmentation/corrections specific to these two documents here.

However, for all other ATM/Type issues, please search the forum or start a new topic -- do not daisy-chain them here.

Thanks.

Neil
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    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    April 17, 2004
    Por cierto, para activar y desactivar fuentes, así como para ordenarlas, puedes usar la última version de Suitcase, que creo es la 11 o algo así, o bien un programa mucho mejor que se llama Font Agent Pro.

    El Font Book que viene con la pantera (OS X.3.3) te sirve si no tienes demasiadas fuentes, pero si tienes centenares o miles de ellas es indispensable comprar Font Agent Pro o algo similar.
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    April 17, 2004
    Hola Drako:

    Vamos por partes. El problema puede ser tu impresora, las fuentes que utilizas, las cuales puedes estar dañadas, y, desde luego, esa abominación de programa que es QuarkXPress.

    Para fines de representar las fuentes en la pantalla y enviarlas a tu impresora, el sistema OS X ya no requiere ATM. El sistema viene ya con esa función integrada. Tú ya tienes la última version, 10.3.3, Pantera.

    (Por cierto tu máquina se llama Mac, no MAC con mayúsculas, pues en la informática MAC tiene otro significado, concretamente el de "Modular Access Control".)

    Desafortunadamente Adobe ha descontinuado por completo el desarrollo de ATM, tanto para el OS X como para las versiones anteriores del sistema; pero, como ya señalé, no lo necesitas.

    Si nos detallas cuáles fuentes te causan problemas, cuál es tu impresora (marca y modelo exactos), modelo de Mac, memoria instalada, etc., quizá podamos darnos una idea.

    Por lo que dices, es obvio que el problema lo causa QXP. Yo lo usé como unos 16 años, y ya lo abandoné porque InDesign es muy superior.

    El ATM Light todavía es útil en el entorno Classic, pero ni es necesario ni funciona en el 10.x.

    Saludos.
    Participant
    April 17, 2004
    Hola:

    Tengo un problema, en la versiones anteriores de mac OS se tenía un suitcase para manejar las fuentes y el ATM para que se pudieran manejar correctamente las tipografias tanto en previsualizacion como en impresion. Ahora que tengo sistema MAC OS 10.3 no trae el suitcase sino un font manager o algo similar, pero no hay una versión de ATM para MAC 10.3 y algunos de mis trabajos salen mal impresos, por lo que no se que hacer, al momento de revisarlos en pantalla están bien pero al imprimir salen mal. Tengo que escribir el texto en otro programa y pasarlo como imagen e insertarlo en Quark 6 para que no me modifique el texto. Help!!!
    Participant
    February 26, 2004
    Hi, I have purchase otf Font Folio and it is a nightmare without type reunion on Panther. I am also running Suitcase X1. Does anybody now of a product out there like type reunion for Panther?
    Inspiring
    December 24, 2003
    I have an idea why InDesign might treat its fonts differently than Illustrator. Adobe may have done this thinking the output would be more correct from the service bureau. The service bureau or printer could put the fonts supplied by the client in the Adobe fonts folder and InDesign sees those fonts and ignores any other duplicate fonts. I am at a loss, however, as to why Adobe should treat Illustrator in Photoshop differently, though. Just musing.
    Inspiring
    December 24, 2003
    I will add this request. Thank you! But, you must admit it is inconsistent that Illustrator and Photoshop shows all of the fonts, while InDesign eliminates Apple's, at least some of the time. weird. I think ID should be built as Illustrator, as far as font recognotion is concerned.
    Inspiring
    December 24, 2003
    I wasn't defending what InDesign does, just pointing out that the documentation does explain it correctly.

    Please use the feature request form at: http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html if you want to formally register your desires for this feature.

    Personally, I agree that it would be great to improve this feature in a future version of InDesign.

    Regards,

    T
    Inspiring
    December 24, 2003
    A job forced me to do some more experimenting. Here's my problem: Adobe Illustrator Adobe Photoshop handle the fonts the way I would like the programs to; InDesign does not.

    I have activated my versions of Gill and Times and have left Apple's in their default locations. Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop show both fonts in the font menu; a TrueType and a Type 1 version. Adobe InDesign only shows my fonts and ignores Apple's. This is a step in the right direction; the last version of InDesign showed Apple's fonts and ignored mine.

    I am posting this with an almost a futile prayer that Adobe will see this and correct the error in the .x version which I hope will come out soon. I seem to want to say never mind the argument given by Thomas above. Illustrator and Photoshop seemed to have gotten it right; InDesign seems to have been left behind. (All of this while Adobe has said that they released all design programs at the same time so there would be consistency. )
    Inspiring
    December 15, 2003
    Actually, on further review I do see the PDF is saying the key thing, and you quoted it yourself: "InDesign CS now lists all active fonts that share a font name but have different PostScript® names." (emphasis added).

    This allows the kind of mixed families I mentioned earlier. But you still can't see Apple dfonts at the same time as their Type 1 counterparts, since they have the same PostScript names.

    Regards,

    T
    Inspiring
    December 13, 2003
    You can do a Search at Adobe's web site for this doc and find it (a 16 page pdf):

    indesign_nfhs.pdf

    Your explanation might explain my disappointment. If I remember correctly, Illustrator and ID handled fonts differently. It seems as if most of the time ID gets it right; but, there are disappointments at other times...