Autodesk Inventor Publisher and FrameMaker

[too-2]

Is there a way to incorporate 3D files from Autodesk Inventor Publisher into FrameMaker? I've tried to import a 3D PDF created from Publisher into FM but all I get is a big black box.

I've figured out how to do it using Acrobat Pro Extended, but management wants me to use Publisher instead...

(FrameMaker 8.0 p277, Windows 7)

Any advice is much appreciated!

[vpmorgan]

Are you able to save or export the file as .ai or .eps? Or a raster graphic file such as .tif? If so, one of those might import into Frame with better results.

-Virginia

[Bob_Niland]

> ... incorporate 3D ...

As a 3D object that can be manipulated in the PDF rendered from Frame?

> ... all I get is a big black box.

Just during edit, or also in the rendered PDF?

[too-2]

Thank you for your replies!

I should have mentioned above that we need a 3D object that can be manipulated in the PDF rendered from Frame.

The black box appears both during edit and also when I create a PDF from FM.

I will try to ask Autodesk to see if they have any hints.

Thanks again for your replies and also for any other insight that I might be missing!

[Art_Campbell1]

It's been a couple years since I did this, so this may be incorrect but I think the summary is:

FM 10, and maybe 9, supported import of 3D UI objects and their inclusion in a PDF produced by Acrobat from Frame.

The gotchas that I'm remembering was that support was limited to the 3D UI file format, and you had to be synced up with a version of Acrobat, not the Distiller version shipped with Frame. So what I'm thinking is that you'd need to upgrade from FM 8 (which would be a good thing anyway), and your probably should think about TCS to get the compatible FM and Acrobat versions.

The end result if you got the correct CAD file input and FM and Acrobat all lined up was pretty cool though. The process does work, it just isn't as easy as the marketing literature would have you think.

Art

[too-2]

Thanks for the response, Art! I've successfully created an interactive PDF by importing a .u3D file (created with Acrobat Pro Extended) into FM and it is very cool.

The problem is that I'm unsure if I can recreate the scenerio using anything other than a .u3D file since I don't think Publisher will create one. I have a question posted in the Autodesk discussion group now.

[Guest]

You might ping somebody at ADSK. I know that as of three years ago the Inventor Online Help was created in FM v7.

[Bob_Niland]

For anyone unfamiliar with the objective here, Adobe has a blog entry about it at:

http://blogs.adobe.com/tcs/2011/01/framemaker/interactive-3d-models-in-documents.html

It has a link to a sample file (rendered by Framemaker) at:

http://blogs.adobe.com/tcs/files/2011/01/3D_Model.pdf

You need Acrobat Reader 7 or later for the model to work.

[SQUIDDS]

Hi,

here we are experts for Technical Documentation with 3D.

There are some ways to a successfully 3D-PDF with FrameMaker:

1. Since FrameMaker 8 you can import an .u3D file.

2. An .u3D file you can generate this mostly thru the native CAD system or
    you can generate it from a wide range of 3D native CAD format with

• 3D PDF Converter (Add-on for Acrobat X Pro)
• SAP Visual Enterprise Author (stand a-lone software)

3. If you will work with the FrameMaker Add-on Finalyser 3D, then you can in FrameMaker

• import u3D
• set views and animations from the text to the .u3D imported file
• set part form in the content
• set a link to the order form
• and save your FrameMAker file as a 3D-PDF

Result: No rework in Acrobat X Pro - the 3D-PDF is ready.

See the videos (some in german/english):

- create an .u3D file format with DEEP EXPLORATION (today SAP Visual Enterprise Author) or with 3D PDF Converter ...

http://youtu.be/jkU_AOSmR0I

- import .u3D in FrameMaker and set the marker to views and animation
  and save the document as 3D-PDF with no rework

http://youtu.be/xAcnaQZUcRk

More information about Finalyser 3D for FrameMaker:

http://www.finalyser.de/en/finalyser-3d.html

Sample with output for mobile device: http://www.squidds.de/downloads/bihler and 3D-PDF

Click the PDF icon, that is a 3D-PDF (in this case without links from the content).

- Georg

[bowen192]

too-2 wrote:

Is there a way to incorporate 3D files from Autodesk Inventor Publisher into FrameMaker? I've tried to import a 3D PDF created from Publisher into FM but all I get is a big black box.

I've figured out how to do it using Acrobat Pro Extended, but management wants me to use Publisher instead...

(FrameMaker 8.0 p277, Windows 7)

Any advice is much appreciated!

I'm 99% certain the answer is, 'No'.

I've been trying it for about 6 months now, on and off, and I think it's an issue that Autodesk should be fixing rather than Adobe.

I just create a 3-D pdf and incorporate that in to the final version now.  The only problem being that you can section view a 3D pdf, which isn't good for security.  According to Adobe, there is no way to turn his off.

EDIT: I think Autodesk have abandoned the publisher forums.  I'm still not convinced about Publisher; it's very buggy, unreliable and full of basic errors that have been there since day 1.