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Assistive technology problem with Khmer font

Nouveau ici ,
Dec 22, 2023 Dec 22, 2023

Hi there, 

 

I create healthcare documents in a variety of languages that must be reviewed for accessibility for screen reader users before publishing. I have run into a problem with a document translated into Khmer (Cambodian) - this was created in Word and then saved as a PDF, but this problem is happening even when I create documents from scratch in Adobe. [I am using Adobe Acrobat Pro - version 2023.006.20380]

 

The font looks perfect on the PDF page, but in the content tool, the text in the containers is showing up interspersed with diamond question mark characters: �. According to my accessibility team, these characters will not be announced accurately by assistive technology - meaning we're stuck. 

 

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  • I've tried downloading multiple types of Khmer fonts
  • I've tried creating the document from scratch in Adobe rather than saving from Word 
  • I've made sure that the downloaded fonts are saved in C:\Windows\Fonts
  • I saw some potentially relevant advice to embed fonts and I followed the instructions here: https://www.adobe.com/uk/acrobat/resources/embed-fonts-in-pdf.html but although the font is showing up in the main PDF editor, it doesn't show up in the menu for embedded fonts. Could this be the problem? (screenshots below)

 

Thank you for any advice you can provide, this has been a frustrating roadblock! 

 

 

font.PNGFont is installed... 

 

embed.PNG...but doesn't show up on this embedding list

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Dec 24, 2023 Dec 24, 2023

The Khmer fonts are embedded in the document attached (Ctrl/CMD D ; Fonts)

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It just looks like certain “modifiers” are not correctly shown. It's the first time I have seen Khmer text as this, so my observation may be utterly wrong.

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Nouveau ici ,
Feb 05, 2024 Feb 05, 2024

Hello Hayley,

We are also encountering the same issue. Any chance you/your team found a way to fix the issue? Please let us know. We are also using MS Word and when we create a PDF using the Acrobat 'Create PDF' option, we see the same output as the screenshot you have provided. But, if we create a PDF using the 'Save As' option, the diamond question marks will disappear but some characters will show up as dotted circles instead, which means the characters are still corrupted.

 

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Also, the fonts are already embedded in the PDF but the characters still show up as corrupted. If you cannot find the font you used from the list, you can add it manually, the same as in the screenshot below. Unfortunately, this still doesn't fix the issue.

 

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Thank you very much and hoping to hear some answers/advice.

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Nouveau ici ,
Jan 02, 2025 Jan 02, 2025

Hi!

 

Were you being able to fix the problem? I am working on a flyer InDesign Khmer document using Noto Sans Khmer font. Based on my poor understanding, the main problem must not be the fonts since the it looks perfect on the PDF page, but in the content tool, the text in the containers is showing up interspersed with diamond question mark characters: �. Therefore, it is an interface problem.

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Nouveau ici ,
May 16, 2025 May 16, 2025

Hi An, since your comment is from 2025 I'm hoping you were able to find a solution. Did you figure this out? Thank you!

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Nouveau ici ,
May 16, 2025 May 16, 2025

Hi Karmenc, unfortunately I was not able to fix it or figure out where the problem was coming from. The only workaround that helped me was exporting a .ps file from InDesign and then re-tagging it manually in Adobe Acrobat. It is not ideal, especially if you're dealing with a long manual, but it got the job done in my case. Hope you were able to find a better solution!

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May 16, 2025 May 16, 2025

Hello!

 

Thank you for sharing the workaround that worked for you; this may help other users who experience the same issue. However, if you have the opportunity to share the logs, please do, as this will help us identify the root cause and find a solution.

 

Regards,

Anand Sri.

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May 16, 2025 May 16, 2025

Thanks, An. I don't know how to use InDesign so I'm back to square one. Glad to hear you found a workaround, though! 

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Nouveau ici ,
Apr 01, 2024 Apr 01, 2024

I'm having the same problem, though my original document is in InDesign. Interestingly, the Khmer alt-text comes through just fine, with all characters & modifier characters intact. Following advice from this forum, I tried setting the "subset fonts when % of font used is less than X" to 1%, and rolling back to InD 18.5, but neither made a difference.

(Note, rolling back to 18.5 was helpful for a similar problem with Hindi, so it may work if you encounter this problem with languages that use devengari script). 

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Nouveau ici ,
May 16, 2025 May 16, 2025

Anyone find a solution to this issue? Same exact thing is happening to me and I've installed all the Khmer fonts under the sun. Thank you very much!

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May 16, 2025 May 16, 2025

Hello @karmenc!

 

I hope you are doing well, and thanks for reaching out.

 

Acrobat’s built-in accessibility/screen-reader support doesn’t pick up system‐installed Khmer fonts unless the PDF itself carries a proper Unicode “ToUnicode” CMap for every glyph. Simply installing every Khmer font on your PC won’t fix a PDF that was created without embedding those mappings. Have you tried the suggestions and the solution shared in this thread? 

 

Verify & embed the fonts with ToUnicode maps
Open your PDF in Acrobat Pro.

Go to All Tools → Print Production → Preflight.

Click the Fixups wrench icon, then expand Fonts & Transparency (or search for “embed”).

Choose “Embed missing fonts” and make sure the option “Embed Unicode mapping (ToUnicode)” is checked.

Run the fixup, save the PDF, and test again in your assistive‐tech tool.

That injects the actual font programs and the Unicode mapping that screen readers need to speak or export Khmer text correctly.

 

Check Acrobat’s Accessibility settings
Even with a correct PDF, make sure Acrobat isn’t blocking assistive tech:

Menu → Preferences → Accessibility

Under “Enable assistive technology support,” tick the box.

Under “Reading Order,” ensure it’s set to “Infer reading order from document structure.”

 

Test with Adobe’s Accessibility Checker
In Acrobat Pro: All Tools → Accessibility → Full Check

Run the check and expand the “Fonts” and “Tags” results.

It will call out missing or non-Unicode-mapped fonts.

 

Once the PDF truly carries embedded Khmer fonts and their ToUnicode CMaps, any assistive-tech tool (or the “Read Out Loud” feature in Acrobat) will be able to render and pronounce the text correctly—regardless of what you’ve installed on your desktop.

 

I hope this helps.

Thanks,

Anand Sri.

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Nouveau ici ,
May 16, 2025 May 16, 2025

Thank you, Anand. I have tried all the tips on this page and now all the tips you just provided. I have also tried: 

preflight, converting to Word then back to PDF, retagging, and running the doc through postscript. 

 

None of these things work. Here is my file if you'd like to troubleshoot.

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May 16, 2025 May 16, 2025

Hi @karmenc!

 

Thank you for sharing the details and the file. Could you please provide the current version of Acrobat that you have installed? To find this, go to the Menu, then select Help, and click on About Adobe Acrobat. Please take a screenshot of the version details and share that with us. Additionally, let us know if you are using a Mac or Windows machine, along with the version of the operating system. Please download and install the Log Collector tool. Once installed, open the tool, ensure all logs are selected, and try to reproduce the issue. After that, close the Log Collector tool. It will generate logs along with a log ID. Please share this information with us for further investigation. Thank you!

 

Regards,

Anand Sri.

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May 16, 2025 May 16, 2025

I'm on Windows. I can't install the Log Collector tool bc I need an admin to do it, and they're not in until next week. Attached is a screenshot showing what version of Acrobat I'm on. Is this enough info for now?

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May 19, 2025 May 19, 2025

Thank you for sharing the logs, @hayley.

 

However, we require the logs for further investigation and to identify the potential root cause. Please collect the logs with the help of the IT admin team and share them with us. Meanwhile, I will try to reproduce the issue with the file you have shared. 

 

Regards,

Anand Sri.

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May 19, 2025 May 19, 2025

Hi Anand, I have sent the log of this issue via the Log Collector tool. Here's a screenshot of the Log ID.

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Hello Hayley!

 

Thank you for sharing the log details. I will get this investigated with the Engineering team, and will share an update soon. Thanks for your time and cooperation.

 

Regards,

Anand Sri.

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