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CMYK wont stay

New Here ,
Nov 27, 2022 Nov 27, 2022

Hello, I have been trying to use a specific CMYK color for a font in a document. Everytime I enter the values (75, 68.,67, 90) they appear to change but when I go back to check they are always slightly off, something like 70, 75, 66, 82. I have done all the color conversion and "preserve black" options and it remains the same issue. Is there anything I can do to have these specific values stay the same? Thank you. 

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LEGEND ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

What app are you editing with? 

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New Here ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

working on a Mac, using Acrobat Pro...

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Community Expert ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

"I have done all the color conversion "

You should never convert a CMYK to another CMYK profile, unless you really know what you are doing because you know the management of colorimetric profiles like the back of your hand.


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New Here ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

by the "color conversion" I meant that I turned off all conversions or am not allowing conversion from CMYK to RGB or anything. 

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Community Expert ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

Thank Apple for fooling you! 😉

Acrobat Pro's text editing tools do not support CMYK mode, and Acrobat or any other software cannot edit the macOS color picker.

So it makes you believe that you are assigning a CMYK color but in fact it uses RGB values, hence the difference after this "invisible" conversion.


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New Here ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

Wow, that is not cool. Any idea what the closest RGB value to "true black" is? I know for CMYK it's 75, 68, 67, 90.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

RGB black is 0,0,0 (or #000000 if you prefer). There are no true, rich or degrees of black.

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New Here ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

And thank you for responding so quickly by the way. Tell me this. If I were able to use a PC would this problem be resolved? 

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LEGEND ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

Yes. The moment you choose to edit anything using Acrobat Pro's edit tools it will be converted to RGB, and it will stay RGB. Many people are fooled by Apple's color picker.

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Community Expert ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

"If I were able to use a PC would this problem be resolved?"

On Windows this problem does not exist, the color picker does not offer the CMYK mode, only HSL/RGB.

 

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LEGEND ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

But really, you shouldn't be editing with Acrobat at all. You should be editing an original document in InDesign or whatever, and making a PDF in the colour space/profile that you need.

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New Here ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

thank you for replying. I tried to re-do everything in Illustrator then converted it back to a PDF. When I opened the new file in Acrobat as a PDF the issue remained the same. 

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LEGEND ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

Ok, now I'm not sure what the issue is. I thought the issue was that you were trying to use the Edit tool in Acrobat, and using it to see the CMYK colour of something on the page. But the problem is that you can't do that in Acrobat, it won't ever work (that is, because Edit will always convert to RGB, the CMYK colour is very unlikely to match).

So, if you're no longer doing that, what is the issue now - what steps are you following?

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Community Expert ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022
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Try this best practise:

Clic and drag to select all object and/or texts you want to edit.

Right-click on the blue border: Edit Using: Illustrator.

Save and close the new Illustrator file to send the changes to the PDF.

 

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