generating incorrect nationalities

[channonp4602134]

No matter how hard I try, I can't get Firefly to generate 'vikings' with the correct nationality. I get four variations and only one is a northern European. When I ask it to generate a northern European, it makes no difference: the originally generated versions stay the same - practically identical.

[holtwebbart]

Haven't seen those notifications yet.
I've tested out a bunch of "iffy" words (including "gun", which should have crashed the server :))) and only get this... how bad must the word be for me to get the red error? 

[Monika Gause]

OK, that looks like the word is banned as well. Maybe they are using the red alert only inside the applications.

I also assume that the list of words might be fluid, since people complain and then maybe words get re-assessed.

[@mj]

Hi @holtwebbart ,

We've asked for this feature request before and we make the request again.

If the engine is unhappy with words or phrases, these can be highlighted with alternate suggestions.

It is Ai afterall right?

Besides the engine is making a decision based on an algorithm.

Simply sharing the words or phrases it finds inappropriate would help creatives instead of us trying to guess what it is unhappy with.

Tx

mj

iMSD

[Shootinero]

Clearly it seems your perception of ethnicities according to geolocations is very biased. I'm in Colombia and all I get is Indian and African people. Latin American people can also be white. I find this geolocation thing useless

[pict052896185237j7]

As I'm in Japan, I only get Asians, but just random asians. 
For Japanese people they look like chinese people. Also its very sterotypical clothes. 
Writing women in Pink dress, brings either Vietnamese clothes, or Chinese clothes. 
Which makes no sense... Its very american way of grouping people...

[Christopher38410041l1ct]

Can you explain this or how I can get the wording correct?

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Prompt order has weight. Putting the main subject first helps determine priority. That being said the AI seems to have issues with the two specifications for ethnicities. Removing the prompts for the boys gives you a Caucasian teacher, but adding them back in confuses it.
This may be a composite in the end, using one prompt to get the correct teacher:

and another for the boys:

[Sugar38908201f3sa]

When I select the same prompt as the reference image, the generated characters all have Asian skin by default. Why don't the same prompts produce the same material?

[Sugar38908201f3sa]

When I select the same prompt as the reference image, the generated characters all have Asian skin by default. Why don't the same prompts produce the same material?

[kglad]

what app?

[jane-e]

@Sugar38908201f3sa 

I've merged this post with your previous post. 

Jane

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Sugar38908201f3sa and I merged your posts into this main thread. When using Firefly it takes geo location into consideration when generating people to give localized ethnicities. If you want a specific ethnicity represented, add that detail to your prompt.

[nmycps]

 I'm still trying to advocate for more precise control of the ethnicity issue for future versions - an 'ethnic geolocation awareness' toggle switch  or strength slider. The current built-in location awareness is often in overdrive, producing results very stereotypical if no particular ethnicity is specified. . Also, if you want to make an array of people in one image, even specifying 'people of various ethnicities' it still doesn't have the strength to override the auto geolocation built-in to Firefly. It should not have as much strength and  influence in generating images as it currently does. 

[aaronp50424457]

Adobe, in Firefly I tried generating images of people about 10-12 times, without specifying race. Never once did any of the four results-per-generation (four images) display a white caucasian male. However, white females and non-white people of both sexes always appeared. I don't understand why this is happening.

[CMass]

Thank you for reaching out. Can you share what prompt you were trying? You may need to include "caucasian male"  in your prompt to help direct the generation. 

[JabyerPrado]

Hi there, Im experiencing something simmilar, I was looking for info about geo-referenced settings or someting bcause since model ver2 was released I did noticed the system may take into account my registered location.... here is my promt:

cinematic shot of beautiful slender woman wearing glow party sunglasses, glow party necklaces, glow party bracelets, glow party crown

[Monika Gause]

Firefly takes your location into account. So if you want to have a certain skin color or origin for the people, then please try and mention that in the prompt. 

[JabyerPrado]

Hi, thanks for taking the time

[JabyerPrado]

Hi ... I was wondering if there is some way (other than the promt) to disable geo reference??.... check this prompt... 1st vpn OFF Location latam .....  2nd vpn ON location usa

full body, beautiful sexy slender Caucasian white skin woman dressed in elegant blue santa dress, blue santa hat, very big sunglasses, walking in a futuristic street night

[JabyerPrado]

Sorry to bother but this is going critical.... Ive been using my pic as reference and asking for KING produces a transgender woman.... Ive got nothing against trans or whatever people wants to self ID.. but it would be nice to understand how should we prompt or what to include so we can get a male in the lets say "ancient" way 

[Monika Gause]

Style reference is the style of the photo or artwork.

If you want to have a certain kind of person, you need to describe how they should look like. If you want a man with a beard, then describe that (and be precise about the type of beard) and also the appearance you want, such as caucasian or whatever.

[JabyerPrado]

Hi, thanks for taking the time and I really apologize for bothering everyone with this, believe me I love the tool but I also believe negation is not the way. its happening and trying to look into it, is not saying the tool is bad. I have tons of examples but I feel Ive posted a lot, I wont do again, talking about race makes me unconfortable.

[Monika Gause]

When you upload a photo as a "style reference", then Firefly does imitate the style of the photo (the color, the light situation, the cropping etc). It does not produce lookalikes of the person in the photo. If you want to produce a certain person, you will have to describe them. In words. If English is not your mother tongue, use another language. Firefly supports 100 languages.

[defaulttc7nhnex2i5o]

I am having an issue with Firefly not being able to generate an image of a caucasian male, even if this is in the prompt. Not one result showing a caucasian male. I have also tried middle-aged caucasian male with grey beard and 2/4 images are females with no beard. Is there another description I can use? 

[Monika Gause]

Please show the exact prompt and the results.

If "male" does not work, try "man" or any other synonyms