On Adobe promts' rules of use and censorship

[jang34044010]

Question; do you actually know (I'm talking now about the Photoshop beta version of generative fill) if once the beta version has become a regular version, whether they're going to stop their bigoted puritanical censorship on prompts? (just try "naked lady like on a Rubens painting" or "cowboy with a gun": that won't work...)
Sigh... Americans ... they would start sticking black blocks on the figures of the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel if they were allowed.
But it annoys me every time they try to impose their hyper prudery on the rest of the world....
When they do that with facebook and instagram you can still think, oh well it's free and just a pastime....
But Adobe is anything but free, that's like your landlord telling you what paintings you can or cannot hang at home.

By the way, those AI directed rules don't work; I was already getting notifications of "you can't do that" at prompts about literally apples, lemons and bananas, while once when I wanted an image of the pope with blood on his hands, I was able to hack that just by replacing the word blood with ketchup...

[jime90533359]

Painting with a rather broad brush, aren't you, lumping all Americans together as puritanical bigots? If you expect Adobe to begin allowing nudity, blood, anti-religious imagery, and anything else which could generate protests towards Adobe, then perhaps you need to move on to a different AI generator. Adobe has stockholders to answer to, and in our ultra-sensitive culture where people seem eager to get offended, Adobe is taking the cautious approach.

I suspect then when Adobe's AI is out of beta, they will have very specific, stated rules about what can and cannot be used to generate images.

[jang34044010]

So basically, you are telling me now, that you are like a tool salesman who only wants to sell hammers that are completely bandaged with non-removable styrofoam to prevent people from hurting themselves if they hit their own fingers with them, but with which they can no longer knock in nails? ?
All for fear that otherwise there could be a "protest" against him?

While that is not his problem or responsibility but that of the customer....

A bit like Mc Donald's who now only sell lukewarm coffee because they once lost a court case against someone who claimed he burned himself on their coffee because it was too hot?

[jime90533359]

To flip this around, you think Adobe should allow users (even children) to create absolutely anything they want, no matter how profane, obscene, racist, or violent, is that right? That's not the world we live in.

Personally, I'd love to create Firefly images which contain nudity, but that's not going to happen and I don't expect it to change.

And you're close - but wrong -  with the McDonald's coffee remark, but they haven't changed the temperature of their coffee. They simply added a precautionary statement to their coffee cups, despite admitting that their coffee was dangerously hot, and having received over 700 lawsuits from consumers who'd been scalded.

[jang34044010]

In the world we live in, anyone (including children) can and may create whatever they want with pen and paper and paint and canvas, etc....
And it is not because we now have digital and AI pens and brushes that that should change: see that is exactly what I mean by bigotry....
Art is free and has no boundaries, or it isn't art anymore...

[jime90533359]

You're exactly right! Children can and may create whatever they want - but they're also held accountable for those images by their parents, teachers, and other authorities. Ask Salman Rushdie. And you should make a distinction between what is created with pen and ink, and and image Adobe AI creates.

I'm not sure you're using the correct word when you use "bigot" or "bigotry". Bigotry is

"obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." I'm not sure that applies here. But anyhow, you made your point, I made mine, and while I don't agree with your opinion, I recognize its your right to believe it.