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Feb 18, 2022 7:47 PM UTC
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ITC Avant Garde Gothic Extra Light

Where is ITC Avant Garde Gothic Extra Light? There are 5 weights listed in the illustration banner on the web page, but only 3 available. We need that Extra Light.

    Bobby HendersonCorrect answer
    Community Expert
    Nov 2, 2023 5:07 PM UTC

    It's actually somewhat common for type families hosted on the Adobe Fonts service to be incomplete compared to the retail versions of the same type families. Some weights may be missing, as is the case with ITC Avant Garde Pro. In other cases the typeface may have a more limited character set. I noticed this with the Mislab type family; its retail "Pro" version has a bigger character set that includes true small capitals, the "Std" version on Adobe Fonts has a more basic character set.

     

    At least with the 3 weights of Avant Garde Pro on Adobe Fonts they have the larger "expert" character set with a huge number of two charater ligatures in uppercase and lowercase ranges. Other versions of Avant Garde that have been bundled into some graphics applications (CorelDRAW, Canvas, etc) don't have those cool extended character sets.

     

    The differences between type families hosted on Adobe Fonts versus the versions for sale really comes down to whatever agreement is made between Adobe and a type foundry such as Monotype. And Monotype is a monster-sized company compared to other type foundries. They've acquired so many type libraries over the past 30 or so years (ITC, Linotype, Berthold, Hoefler, etc). Monotype is also promoting their own subscription type service, which sort of competes with Adobe's service. If anything were to change I'd be more concerned Monotype might remove some of the 41 type families they're sharing on Adobe Fonts.

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    Imaginerie
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    Community Expert
    Feb 19, 2023 1:49 PM UTC

    I have this typeface activated, but I just checked there is only 3 available in Adobe Font.

    It's possible that the original foundry (monotype) decided to remove some variations (They wouldn't be the first ones) and didn't update the related material.
    However it will be available on Monotype's own website: https://catalog.monotype.com/family/itc/itc-avant-garde-gothic

    You could even ask there if they intend to put it up on Adobe font again...

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    Participant
    Feb 16, 2023 4:43 PM UTC

    Yes, please.  we need the weights! thank you!

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    Participant
    Nov 7, 2022 12:23 PM UTC

    Come on Adobe - if you're going to include a typeface can we have all the weights please - and the condensed versions - especially with such an iconic font!

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    bobp36459775
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    Nov 2, 2023 4:22 PM UTC

    yes we need all the weights for this font. It's rediculous how they just discontinue things. 

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    Bobby HendersonCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
    Community Expert
    Nov 2, 2023 5:07 PM UTC

    It's actually somewhat common for type families hosted on the Adobe Fonts service to be incomplete compared to the retail versions of the same type families. Some weights may be missing, as is the case with ITC Avant Garde Pro. In other cases the typeface may have a more limited character set. I noticed this with the Mislab type family; its retail "Pro" version has a bigger character set that includes true small capitals, the "Std" version on Adobe Fonts has a more basic character set.

     

    At least with the 3 weights of Avant Garde Pro on Adobe Fonts they have the larger "expert" character set with a huge number of two charater ligatures in uppercase and lowercase ranges. Other versions of Avant Garde that have been bundled into some graphics applications (CorelDRAW, Canvas, etc) don't have those cool extended character sets.

     

    The differences between type families hosted on Adobe Fonts versus the versions for sale really comes down to whatever agreement is made between Adobe and a type foundry such as Monotype. And Monotype is a monster-sized company compared to other type foundries. They've acquired so many type libraries over the past 30 or so years (ITC, Linotype, Berthold, Hoefler, etc). Monotype is also promoting their own subscription type service, which sort of competes with Adobe's service. If anything were to change I'd be more concerned Monotype might remove some of the 41 type families they're sharing on Adobe Fonts.

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