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November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

~~The feature currently only works on raw photos.~~ Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

Update (01-16-2025)

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

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GroomsPhotography

Inspiring

in got a gret result but could not save the image back to LrC

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Christof5D0C

Participant

Hallo
Ich kriege damit Spiegelungen auf Brillen nicht weg.
Was kann ich tun?
Danke für die Hilfe

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colmanc45976152

Participating Frequently

Débarrassez vous des lunettes en attendant qua Adobe fasse correctement son travail.

Je suis en colère car j'attends toujours une solution à l'utilisation correct du logiciel Adobe "Suppression des reflets".

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Chapps-LA

Inspiring

I've been working with the new beta, 26.8, and it does seem to have improved some of the issues around reflection removal. The example below is interesting, because the object - an ancient glass Roman cinerary urn - it itself made of a reflective material, and it's contained in a display that's reflecting the windows behind me. It did a super job at removing both 'soft' and harsh reflections, with one area of confusion at the top of the right handle (which I can easily correct manually).

It's kind of wild to see the export of just the removed reflections - pretty dramatic. One note: if I use the 'denoise' tool on this image, it doesn't play well with the reflection removal tool. I get odd patches of noise and color (note the bokeh in the lower left), and it completely removed the blurred text on the wall behind the urn (which I wouldn't mind, actually, but it's not evenly applied).

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Wow, this is a terrific photo. It's impressive because the result is so flawless (sans denoise). Thanks for noting your gut feeling that denoise somehow degrades reflection removal. I suspect this will be difficult to prove, but your point is noted and I will keep it in mind.

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Chapps-LA

Inspiring

Thanks! Yes, I've done several tests where I use denoise before reflection removal, comparing it to the same image without denoise, and it's a case by case basis. Sometimes the difference is very noticeable, other times, it seems to make no difference at all. When in doubt, I try the reflection removal first, then let it re-run if I subsequently use denoise. I really do need to get a lens that works better in low light, so that my pics aren't so noisy. Unfortunately, the one I want is the equivalent of a down payment on a car!

gribfib

Participant

The tool did not work at all in trying to remove the reflection of a softbox from a pane of glass. Literally did nothing. I can't post the image here for client privacy reasons, but would be happy to send it to an adobe email.

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MrsBucknall

Participant

I have tried this tool, but sadly I just get a corrupt picture. I am using a MAC which is on the latest software Sequoia 15.5 I have attched a screen shot of my attempt. I used a RAW file. Hopefully this will get sorted - since it will be so helpful.

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Chapps-LA

Inspiring

What type of RAW file were you using? They'll probably ask for the specs on your Mac and ask for you to post the unprocessed RAW file as well.

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MrsBucknall

Participant

Ok, I will update my info and add this. ,thank you

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Chapps-LA

Inspiring

I've now had several complete fails using the reflection removal tool, which is usually quite reliable for these types of reflections. Did something change in the code recently? Below is an example - the reflections aren't very bright, and those would usually be eliminated by the removal tool. The tool *did* work to reduce the glare from the lighting in the display case (third pic below shows what it removed), but completely omitted removing the actual reflections. The last eight or so photos that I took at this museum turned out in this same way. Unfortunately, this means I have to go back to the old fashioned methods for reflection removal. In this case, I eventually opted to clean the reflections and then darken the background. so that any evidence of the removal was impossible to see. Wouldn't you consider these reflections to be relatively easy to remove?

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Would you be willing to share the RAW? We are working to improve the reliability of the model. The model can sometimes be confused in this way where it focuses on removing a soft glare rather than the actual detailed content that is the reflection.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Thanks! But the non-public link is very odd, as I ensured it would be. Try this instead, direct to file, sharing turned on for anyone with the link ... https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fazLSutwLhe7fz5oExA97G922sfhmg_Y/view?usp=sharing

Thanks so much, I was able to test it. Make sure to checkout our upcoming release...

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stevan92

Participant

the removal function doesn't work on eyeglasses.

i have the latest version and the reflection still remains using the function in maximum level

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

This is known and intended. Please see the blog to learn more about reflection removal.

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stevan92

Participant

so, if is intended, how can I remove a reflection on eyeglasses?

boyceb59618017

Participant

I tried using it on a dark photo with a reflection of a checkered tile floor. The filter made no changes to my photo regardless of the settings. What am I not doing correctly?

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

This is an unusual looking photo, and that might be the simple reason why. If you're willing to share the original RAW, that would be helpful. We continue to work toward models that work on every single image.

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Rob van Esch

Known Participant

This was the original image

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Máté31907240iwxi

Participant

Feedback about reflections removal:

With this photo for example (attached) the reflections were removed perfectly, however the whole picture became blurry, and lost the sharpness. Thank you