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November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

~~The feature currently only works on raw photos.~~ Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

Update (01-16-2025)

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

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thomasd88842858

Participant

Does not work on 27" iMac Sequoia 2020 With CAMERA RAW 17.1.0.2100, or iMac 2015 MONTEREY,

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Ab van Polanen

Participating Frequently

Still the same problem for me

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NicoleYM

Known Participant

I haven't had any luck with removing reflections. Here's one photo that I thought would be a good candidate for the tool, but there was almost no change in the image after reflection removal. I've tried about 10 Nikon NEF files and a few Apple ProRaw photos and have had similar unimpressive results.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Hi Nicole, this photo is not a good candidate for two reasons. First, you can't see anything behind the reflection. Reflection removal will remove reflections that are semi-transparent; but, if the reflection looks opaque so as to prevent you from seeing anything underneath it, the tool will likely do nothing.

The second reason is that the glass is not blocking your view of the subject (the reflection area is on the smaller side). Yes, your application is reasonable, and we would like to support it in the future, but the tool is currently designed to remove reflections from glass panes that separate you from your subject, and therefore cover most all of your view. Imagine cases like airplane windows, traveling in cars/trains, aquariums, zoos, sports like hockey, etc., Please refer to this Blog post to understand how to get best results from the tool, and how we are working to improve it.

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David Saxe

Participant

I finally figured it out.

1. Click on original RAW file and select"Open in Photoshop as a Smart Object."

2. When it opens in Photoshop, double click the image in the layers panel.

3. Then select the image remove tool, in RAW

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Marty_Bigos8577

Participant

David -

I struggled with no success of getting Sony .ARW files from LrC to PS to remove reflections. I wasreduced to exporting from LrC, opening and editing in PS, saving the fixed file on my disc, then importing back into LrC.

Your step of double clicking the layer made it all work for me as well.. Thanks for posting to help all us PS beginners.

Marty

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TerryKownack

Participant

This photo is of light reflection off of a glass wall. I ran it twice with no help. This photo after running the reflection removal.

I have a RTX 3050 Graphics Card, Win 10 Pro

OS Build 19045.5247

Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0 Version 22H2n

Terry Kownack

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TerryKownack

Participant

This is the photo I was working on.

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Chapps-LA

Inspiring

I suspect it's because the reflections of the bright lights eliminated any detail of the shower behind each reflection. If the information isn't in the RAW file, it can't be created magically. I've found that some bright spots can be eliminated via this tool, but not when the background is complicated. Most often, they remain, or they're turned into 'noise' spots.

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clintcamp

Participant

Hi,

Unfortunately, the Remove Reflection tool has not worked for me yet, either. Attached is the post-processed image of an octopus through aquarium glass taken on an iPhone 16proMax. It does not seem as though any change has occurred.

Best, TC

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Please refer to this Blog post to understand how to get best results from the tool, and how we are working to improve it.

Currently for aquarium shots, performance might be less reliable. Please continue to post examples so we can improve the tool. Thanks so much.

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TomHackettPhotography

Known Participant

In this photo, the left side features a mannequin head behind a glass storefront window. In the right side, we see another storefront window intersecting at a 90º angle. (There is no mannequin head behind the right side window). The camera is pointing at the intersedtion of the two windows, so the angle of the camera is 45º to each window. Reflection removal does not seem to recognize that the right window mannequin head is in fact a refection. This can be confirmed by comparing the +100 and -100 views.

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mozzarelli

Participant

Buongiorno, io ho un problema su tutti e due i miei computer, sia quello fisso che il laptop.
Il problema è il seguente: usando un file raw NEF e cerco di eliminare la presenza di riflessi, mi risponde sempre in questo modo "Impossibile rimuovere i riflessi, si è verificato un errore sconosciuto. (ugualmente aprendo il file da Bridge o da Photoshop) como posso risolvere questo problema, grazie.

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David Saxe

Participant

I tried it but after Technology Preview has been selected the Reflecton Tool is always greyed out. I cannot use it

ricche

Participant

Didn't do a clean job in removing all the reflections. Only the brighter parts were removed, leaving portions of lighter reflections. Would be good if we can then select the remaining areas of reflections and redo the action to completely remove all reflections.