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P: (Technology Preview) Reflection Removal (CR)

Adobe Employee ,
Nov 05, 2024 Nov 05, 2024

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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.  

 

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos. 

 

Note: 

  • The feature currently only works on raw photos. Support for non-raw photos (e.g., JPEGs or HEICs) will be added in a future update. 
  • There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release. 

 

Check out the HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post. 

 

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature: 

  • Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate). 
  • Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox. 
  • Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing. 
  • Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise. 

When using the slider, the key values to note are: 

  • 0 – the input photo
  • 100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo 
  • -100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera) 

 

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience. 

 

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future. 

 

Example use-cases for the feature include: 

  • Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.) 
  • Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows) 
  • Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.) 

 

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions: 

  • Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
    • The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
    • If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
  • Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
  • If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

 

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group 


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Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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Community Beginner ,
Dec 12, 2024 Dec 12, 2024

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The tool did not work. This is the resultScreenshot 2024-12-12 at 14.22.39.png

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I get similar digital hash every time in WIndows but I have seen some passable results in X86 macOS with AMD graphics.

The Windows machine has newer and more powerful GPU/CPU than the Apple machine so not sure why the total failures.

Hopefully this will get to the level of Generative AI, even in Windows.

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Dec 12, 2024 Dec 12, 2024

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The corrupt image result is a known problem on some Windows PCs for this technology preview. We are working on a fix for the next release. Thanks for your patience.

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Dec 13, 2024 Dec 13, 2024

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It also occurs on my IMAC 2019

Screenshot 2024-12-13 at 10.21.14.png

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Dec 14, 2024 Dec 14, 2024

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Same effect on a 2019 MAC

 

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Dec 14, 2024 Dec 14, 2024

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Dec 14, 2024 Dec 14, 2024

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Yes but in PS

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Dec 18, 2024 Dec 18, 2024

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Did this issue ever get resolved? I'm running a 2019 imac with Intel i5 processer and hadn't experienced any issues UNTIL the new Reflection Removal feature was released. When I try this I get the pixelated results that others have mentioned (usually related to PCs). Is this likely to be an intel incompatibility issue? I also have a 2023 M2 Macbook Air and the feature works perfectly there.

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Dec 19, 2024 Dec 19, 2024

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Hi Rikk thank you for the feedback - I went and read through the chain that you reference and saw that it was a potential issue that pre-dated the release of the Reflection Removal function.

I've not actually experienced any of the issues described on my 2019 Intel i5 mac in any of the Adobe programs UNTIL this reflection removal feature release.

I see from an earlier response that its a known issue:

"The corrupt image result is a known problem on some Windows PCs for this technology preview. We are working on a fix for the next release. Thanks for your patience."

However there doesn't seem to be any acknowledgement that the issue also affects older Macs. Do you know whether the fix being worked on for the next release will also address the failure on 2019 Macs?

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Dec 14, 2024 Dec 14, 2024

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Yes I got the same on a Mac adobe1.png

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This also happens on my Mac and I am trying it on a raw photo..

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I'm getting similar, takes ages to get the blue line to complete then i just get a screen full of lines then Photoshop freezes, tried it 5 times and get exactly the same result.

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Dec 21, 2024 Dec 21, 2024

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I'm getting the sale result on an 2019 iMac. Just multicolored noise when I use the reflection tool. I'm applying it to a RAW file from a Lumix S9. 

 

 

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I tried it on my MacBook Air with an M2 chip and the reflection too worked but didn't do a very good job removing the reflection. 

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Dec 12, 2024 Dec 12, 2024

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How do you even use it?

I tried all kinds of image formats and it always stays disabled and says that it doesn't support my image format. This is dumb...

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Dec 12, 2024 Dec 12, 2024

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@lucellent wrote:

How do you even use it?

I tried all kinds of image formats and it always stays disabled and says that it doesn't support my image format. This is dumb...


 

Currently, the Reflections removal tool does not support non-raw file formats like JPEG and HEIC. 

 



Here is our help page about the feature.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/remove-reflections.html

You can reach this page (in any supported language) by clicking on the info (i) icon for Remove Reflections.

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Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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I just had the same issues, I found that if I opened the image in PS, and did not send it straight from LR, it worked.

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Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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That worked for me. Thanks!

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I've tried the lightroom route AND the direct into Photoshop (via camera raw) route and get the pixelated results in both. I'm on a 2019 mac with Intel Core i5 and radeon pro 580x 8gb graphics card.

 

I also have photoshop running on a 2022 MacBook Air and the feature worked perfectly there using the same photograph. Hopefully the Adobe Gurus will get this sorted in the next release

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For now, it only works with raw files and also, be sure technology previews are enabled in Camera Raw. This blog entry is very helpful https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/12/12/removing-window-reflections-adobe-camera-raw 

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I open a dng file in lightroom classic, make some adjustments, send it to Photoshop and then open Camera Raw and try to remove reflections and it says that this type of picture (DNG) is not compatible with reflection removal. What is the problem?

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Screenshot (192).png
The screenshot speaks itself

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It's a tool to help.  It's not magic.  That is a terrible photo to start with.

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Im seeing Graphics card memory usage around 15GB after loading a 45MP from a Canon R52.  Is this what we should expect and should we be looking at cards with more memory than this? If one has a card with more memory will this make the process quicker? I've been trying this using a 4080 mobile system (12Gb).

I've unsucessfully not been able to remove redlections from the front screens of trams. 

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