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stlouiscrash09
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April 11, 2014
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Preview Button!!!!

  • April 11, 2014
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Hello, I am incredibly upset about the removal of the preview button in Camera Raw. It has completely interrupted my workflow. I don't mind the ADDITION of new features for those who make take advantage of them, but the REMOVAL of perfectly good features that many of us are used to using is asinine and if you can't tell I am rather upset about it. Please for the sake of god bring it back.

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    MChamlee
    Participant
    April 14, 2014

    Preview?!?!?!?   I can no longer see before and after preview of just my sharpness/noise reduction settings.

    I agree with stlouiscrash09. . . . "I am incredibly upset about the removal of the preview button in Camera Raw. It has completely interrupted my workflow. I don't mind the ADDITION of new features for those who make take advantage of them, but the REMOVAL of perfectly good features that many of us are used to using is asinine and if you can't tell I am rather upset about it. Please for the sake of god bring it back."

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    MChamlee
    Participant
    April 14, 2014

    Arbitrary software change like this are tough on those of us who work under deadlines.

    Noel Carboni
    Noel Carboni
    Legend
    April 11, 2014

    Can you describe the workflow you use(d) in which you employed the Preview button?

    Perhaps there's another way to "get there from here" with the new version.

    -Noel

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    stlouiscrash09Author
    Participant
    April 11, 2014

    I apologize for being so upset, but it is very frustrating to attempt to do

    something and find it's been changed. I've noticed that there is no way at

    all to see what the original photo looked like without resetting all your

    adjustments. The new "before and after" buttons only go back to your most

    recent settings. Not what the original photo was. I don't care what my last

    edit looked like, I want to know what my original looked like and what my

    current edit looks like. Again I apologize for being so upset, and I

    appreciate your time.

    Very Respectfully,

    Jules

    Yammer
    Yammer
    Inspiring
    April 25, 2014

    I remember the discussions around that moire problem, and I agree that, while the new version with sliders made it more flexible, it did enter in additional work on the part of the user, steps that, if the control actually did a job not being done well at all, it is worth the effort. The overall complication then is worth it. In the case under discussion, I say no, as when the new version of Photoshop introduced the floating document. IIRC, that came at the expense of the older method and a cry went up. The solution was to allow either/or for the user. (I don't use floating).

    The conclusion here is the attitude I find from many software producers, which I fought early on when I was doing validation for an  overclocking control. The cumbersome use of the provided UI actually slowed down our testing and the response was that it was a user issue, not a testing issue. My response was I am the user first, and secondly, if I am having problems such that it seems that a user, having the same problems, would not want to use it. Ultimately, we made overall changes in important parameters that, incidentally, provided the software writers better confidence in our results.

    Years ago, I read Richard Persig's book "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". He has a chapter on gumption, and called it gumptionology 101. Just for that it is a good read, and anyone doing software that impacts the user at the UI level needs to take into consideration. This is exactly what is happening here, and has happened in the past. In fact, a major consideration driving my use of given software is that concept exactly. Some of this does involve a learning curve, and that is at the discretion of the user. Do I want to go there? Do I want a degree in EE for instance? If the answer is yes, one climbs the curve.

    As to the problem here, if the new version persists as presented, my potential answer is not to use the Snapshot but to make a dupe of the file have both loaded into ACR but leave the dupe unchanged and unsynced, then all I need to do is switch between them for individual checks. It's simpler than making and looking for Snapshots.

    Finally a history panel also provides this service. Be nice to see one in ACR. Snapshots then would work really well.

    -Lawrence


    I'd use Snapshots a lot more if I found an easier/quicker way to do it. As it stands, I hardly ever use them. Maybe I need to try harder. Maybe it could be made easier/quicker. I'm not sure which.

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