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Hello Group!
Since the first week of July, I've spent around 40-50 hours navigating around Cp 12, trying to figure it out, as I prepare to launch a course in the autumn.
At first I blamed myself for not understnading the interface--and I asked so many questions on this forum! I want to thank you all and let you know how grateful I am for your intellectual generosity in answering so many of my questions. Lilybiri Lieve, Stagprime, and many others. I appreciate your kindness and willingness to help.
I also have had lovely experiences with the Captivate team, including a very kind Gaurav, who spent an hour on a video call with me watching the bugs on the screen of my practice module, taking notes, and sending in bug tickets. But as kind as that was of him, it is also one more hour of my time that I spent trying to fix Adobe, rather than writng and building my course. I cannot afford to do this.
I love the idea of Cp 12 and I think when it is ready it will be a great tool for people like me who are not trained coftware mavens and course developers such as Lilybiri and Stagprime, but rather who have great instructional content and just need a mechanism to share it.
But for now, I am afraid that Cp12 is just not useable. The responsiveness just doesn't work. Almost all of the interactions have flaws and bugs. Things render differently on my screen when I toggle from desktop to tablet to phone.
I am not saying this to insult Adobe, but I am hoping that you are listening. I really think you can have a great product for people like me, but it needs to work and right now it just doesn't. I have a huge client who wants to buy my course, and I cannot spend the time troubleshooting Adobe's bugs and I cannot take a chance thatit will not work.
I just signed up for a Rise trial, and I got further in 45 minutes of playing arounf with Rise, than I did in ~45 hours on Captivate. With Rise, I will actually be able to create my course. With Cp 12, I cannot.
So I am doing my Rise trial for 30 days, and will almost certainly then sign up for a year with them. I know they are expensive, but at least it seems to work.
I will consider coming back to Adobe after that expesive year over at Rise, if you've got your product working. And I dearly hope you do!
Thank you again to those of you who gave your time so generously to this brand-new user. Your kindness was very appreciated.
And Lilybiri - keep your spirits up. You are clearly the backbone of this group, and Adobe should pay you for your time.
Take care, all!
-Lisa
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p.s. With my apologies for the typos--I cannot go back and edit--there is no edit feature on my screen for some reason.
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Lisa, I respect personally your decision. Know that you were the user that made me break my promise not to help with the new Captivate. Adobe finally succeeded in breaking my spirits, it took them 15 years of trying.
Just some questions due to my experience as engineer, professor, manager of college departments, a trainer, coach in construction companies, adult trainer, musician and music teacher:
So often the logical ways in other domains are not at all respected in the domain of creating eLearning courses. Isn't Learning the most important activity for any individual?
This is not meant as criticism on your talents/skills but on what happens in Learning and eLearning. Just for your reflection. You need to know that my first priority has never been the tool, but LEARNING and providing the best assets to help any individual to reach their personal learning goals. Don't label me just as a software freak, wished you could listen to my former students, from children (Flute playing) to adults who could get a new job thanks to what they learned from me.
It has never happened that I have been so personal in an answer, but I broke too many laws for you already. I have a lot of lacking skills, marketing in the first place, but even more being born as a female with talents in a male dominant world, having tried to use those talents (often freely) to help others. Hiding my talents partially has often been the only way to get a job.
My apologies for this 'tirade'. You are a woman with great skills, but I wanted to offer you some reflection ideas.
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Lily Lieve, thank you for taking the time to write such a sweet message.
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Lisa, I have taught AutoCad (amongst over 30 other software applications), you don't learn it in 45 hours and it has also bugs. I used to be an expert in MS Project and logged bugs 25 years ago which still are not solved.
In collaboration with another engineer we created an easy to use application for cost price calculation in Lotus 1-2-3 in the previous century. It has been used by many small construction companies and then... IBM let Lotus 1-2-3 die while it had features in 2000 which Excel stil doesn't have. Personally I blame marketing and same is now happening with Captivate.
I know developers who are so bored with having to use Rise because it too limiting, and the new version of Captivate seems to be going the same path. Based on what I learned about you so far, I am afraid what will happen in the future.
Once the engineer learned AutoCad he'll want to switch to Revit and look for an application to allow VR walks in his projects. Question: will he do this just by dabbling without any training? I have been the stupid woman who took over all topics for teaching which my male colleagues didn't like (was the only female of course). My research career (8years) led to a calculation method for Watertowers to avoid instability. But when I was hired in college, the only topic I was not allowed to teach was of course... Stability.
Somone just posted that they got the user manual for CP12, please have a look. I know what to expect, for the same reason I started to supplement the official user manual by starting to blog.
Don't worry about me, it is not the first bump in my career, probably the last one because I give up finally. A Flemish proverb says 'who is growing higher than the other blades needs to be mowed immediately'. But mowing hurts.
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Great thread - both of you!
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Hi Lisa !
I followed your fight to "correct" the new Captivate and understood your resignation... and frustration !
In 40-50 hours, it would have been possible to create a nice project with the Classic Captivate !...
Mostly with the help of Lilybiri or Stagprime ! if needed !
Before going to Rise, have a last look a the galeries of the free projects, all done with Captivate Classic, and the imagination of their authors... And if Classic Captivate was the right tool for you ?...
Take care !
😉
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Thanks for your support, but Lisa - logically - is persuaded that the EOL for the Classic version will be there in the future and doesn't want to lose time learning a very professional authoring tool (which I hoped ever to become on the same level as PS/AI) when it will be thrown away for a Rise-type tool (some compare the new Captivate with Paint vs Photoshop...).
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@Dirlo thank you for the kind thought - but yes, Lilybiri is correct. Classic is clearly a great tool, but I don't want to invest my time learning something that has an already-announced EOL date.
I really do want Cp 12 to work, and I will check back in a year, when my Rise subscription is over. If Cp is useable then, I will most likely come back.
Thank you again to this amazing support community! I wish everyone wonderful luck.