Using Captivate with SharePoint

Report · Apr 12, 2010

I apologize in advance, the "search within this forum" function is not working, so I can't search the Captivate forum to see if this question has already been answered.

When you develop training and quizzes in Captivate, I've heard you can post the files on SharePoint, and then SharePoint will capture the student information and quiz results. Has anyone successfully done this just using a standard SharePoint site, and not the SharePoint LMS that is offered?

Report · Apr 12, 2010

Hi there

I'm one of the forum moderator helpers. I noticed you said the search wasn't working? I just tested and it's working fine for me. Possible hiccup?

Anyhoo, I stand to be corrected on this, but I don't believe SharePoint offers any LMS like functions. I believe it's a simple file sharing system. Perhaps what you saw was a report where someone used an LMS within SharePoint somehow?

Hopefully someone with more SharePoint knowledge will chime in here.

Cheers... Rick

Helpful and Handy Links

Captivate Wish Form/Bug Reporting Form

Adobe Certified Captivate Training

SorcerStone Blog

Captivate eBooks

Report · Apr 12, 2010

I think the search function not working is something with our internet browser here at work, because it works fine at home.

Here's the weblink I have on the MS SharePoint-based LMS.

http://www.sharepointlms.com/

Report · Apr 12, 2010

Hello again

The link you pointed us to appears to be for a product you may purchase that installs a LMS on SharePoint, where presumably, you can then use SharePoint content in a LMS fashion.

This seems to substantiate my understanding that SharePoint in and of itself has nothing that facilitates capturing the information. It seems to require a third party solution.

Cheers... Rick

Helpful and Handy Links

Captivate Wish Form/Bug Reporting Form

Adobe Certified Captivate Training

SorcerStone Blog

Captivate eBooks

Report · Apr 12, 2010

Right, the link I sent is for an actual LMS. I was just wondering if a SharePoint site itself could capture information. I thought I read somewhere that it could, but maybe they were referring to the LMS. I haven't been able to track down that forum that I found.

Report · Apr 12, 2010

By the way, the companies that have developed their SharePoint LMS solutions most

likely started with SLK and tweaked it to provide their own functionality.

Jim Leichliter

Report · Apr 12, 2010

The SharePoint Learning Kit (SLK) is designed to provide a full blown LMS inside of SharePoint and it's free.

SharePoint Learning Kit is a SCORM 2004 certified e-learning delivery and tracking application built as a Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 solution. It works with either Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 or Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007, and has the following core features:

Supports SCORM 1.2, SCORM 2004, and Class Server content, allowing users to store and manage this content in SharePoint document libraries.
Supports learner-centric and instructor-led (assigned) workflows.
Allows assignment, tracking and grading of both e-learning and non-e-learning content.

Hope that helps,

Jim Leichliter

Report · Apr 12, 2010

I like free! Thanks Jim!

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:44:17 -0600
From: forums@adobe.com
To: melinda_smith3@hotmail.com
Subject: Using Captivate with SharePoint
The http://slk.codeplex.com/ is designed to provide a full blown LMS inside of SharePoint and it's free.

SharePoint Learning Kit is a SCORM 2004 certified e-learning delivery and tracking application built as a Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 solution. It works with either Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 or Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007, and has the following core features:
Supports SCORM 1.2, SCORM 2004, and Class Server content, allowing users to store and manage this content in SharePoint document libraries.
Supports learner-centric and instructor-led (assigned) workflows.
Allows assignment, tracking and grading of both e-learning and non-e-learning content.

Hope that helps,

Jim Leichliter

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Report · Apr 14, 2010

Hi Jim,

I can't seem to get a reply from anyone on the forum for the SharePoint Learning Kit, so maybe you can answer my question.

Once you set up your SharePoint site and download the SharePoint Learning Kit, how do you activate the kit on your site?

Thanks,

Melinda

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:44:17 -0600
From: forums@adobe.com
To: melinda_smith3@hotmail.com
Subject: Using Captivate with SharePoint
The http://slk.codeplex.com/ is designed to provide a full blown LMS inside of SharePoint and it's free.

SharePoint Learning Kit is a SCORM 2004 certified e-learning delivery and tracking application built as a Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 solution. It works with either Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 or Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007, and has the following core features:
Supports SCORM 1.2, SCORM 2004, and Class Server content, allowing users to store and manage this content in SharePoint document libraries.
Supports learner-centric and instructor-led (assigned) workflows.
Allows assignment, tracking and grading of both e-learning and non-e-learning content.

Hope that helps,

Jim Leichliter

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Report · Apr 15, 2010

Hi Melinda,

Once you unzipped the SLK-Install-1.4.0.zip file, you want to read the ReleaseNotes.txt file that's inside. Here's the directions they provide:

To Install
    1. Unzip onto your SharePoint server.
    2. Run AddSolution.cmd
    3. Run UpdateSolutionNavigation.cmd
    4. Open SharePoint Central Administration | Operations | Solutions and deploy to the web applications you want it available in
    5. Use SharePoint Central Administration | Applications | Configure SharePoint Learning Kit to configure it for the site collections you want to use it in
    6. In the site collection you want to use it in add the web part to the gallery

Also, they have some troubleshooting tips on their FAQ page here.

Thanks,

Jim Leichliter

Report · Apr 15, 2010

There's also a GettingStarted.pdf file inside the zip package that goes into more detail about the requirements and install.

-- Jim

Report · Apr 15, 2010

Thanks for all your information Jim!

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:25:53 -0600
From: forums@adobe.com
To: melinda_smith3@hotmail.com
Subject: Using Captivate with SharePoint
There's also a GettingStarted.pdf file inside the zip package that goes into more detail about the requirements and install.

-- Jim

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Report · Apr 15, 2010

Well, that is interesting, learned something new. Now who is willing to move their LMS to a MS/SharePoint product - raise their hand?

Has anybody tried it?

Report · Apr 16, 2010

Who knows. I'll give it whirl and see what happens.

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:32:18 -0600
From: forums@adobe.com
To: melinda_smith3@hotmail.com
Subject: Using Captivate with SharePoint
Well, that is interesting, learned something new. Now who is willing to move their LMS to a MS/SharePoint product - raise their hand?

Has anybody tried it?

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Report · Jul 01, 2010

Melbert, it's been a few months since your last post. Do you have any insights to share about how things have worked for you? My company doesn't have an LMS, but we do have SharePoint and will be looking into this as a viable option. We'd love to hear about your experience!

Report · Jul 01, 2010

I'm sorry, but I don't have anything new to share. I looked into purchasing the SharePoint LMS which was pretty expensive. As for the free alternative that I looked into using, I chickened out because I thought how good can it be if SharePoint has one for sale.

Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 09:18:55 -0600
From: forums@adobe.com
To: melinda_smith3@hotmail.com
Subject: Using Captivate with SharePoint
Melbert, it's been a few months since your last post. Do you have any insights to share about how things have worked for you? My company doesn't have an LMS, but we do have SharePoint and will be looking into this as a viable option. We'd love to hear about your experience!

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Report · Jul 01, 2010

Another alternative would be to use SCORM Cloud

This would allow you to host your content in SharePoint and still use the SCORM standard to track and report users. It allows your content to be hosted anywhere and frees you from having to be limited to hosting your content in a proprietary LMS.

HTH,

Jim Leichliter

Report · Feb 27, 2011

Thanks for the insight Jim! I gave the Rustici Scorm Cloud free demo a try and was up and running from scratch in about 30 minutes using the original captivate 4 and scorm 1.2 file I had created including the flv's!

See post below for more info, but thank you, thank you for posting that link!

Kris

Report · Feb 27, 2011

We're using it where I work. We'll, we're still getting it fully implemented... but that's another story,

I've uploaded modules using both Captivate 4 and 5. Both work, but you have to get the publish settings correct. We also had to get a developer to hide the SLK table of contents, display the Captivate one and make it so that our "learning objects" would automatically play, so it wasn't so confusing for end users.

Of note is that if you want to have courses that people can self-select into, it doesn't seem to record the data about their learning in any retrievable way, so you either have to assign it to everyone, or assign it to people on an ad-hoc basis if you want any records of learning.

HTH,

Elisabeth

Report · Feb 27, 2011

Has anyone gotten captivate 4 scorm output to work with this sharepoint LMS solution?

Either the free sdk or the commercial sharepoint LMS product?

I'm particularly interested if anyone is getting their flv's to work.. We've got several very nice (and large) trainings created in captivate 4, but not having any luck getting the scorm 1.2 output to work on moodle 1.9 (content works, just not the flv's). I've spent far too many hours trying to troubleshoot this, am now months behind schedule, and need to make a change to get it up and running asap, even if that means going to a new LMS server, or abandoning captivate as authoring tool.

Any success stories with using captivate 4 and outputting scorm 1.2 with working flv's would be appreciated.

Kris

Report · Feb 27, 2011

We never did get it to work. I don't know if I would abandon Captivate before I would abandon moodle though as I'm not sure how powerful moodle is.

Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:05:06 -0700
From: forums@adobe.com
To: melinda_smith3@hotmail.com
Subject: Using Captivate with SharePoint
Has anyone gotten captivate 4 scorm output to work with this sharepoint LMS solution?
Either the free sdk or the commercial sharepoint LMS product?

I'm particularly interested if anyone is getting their flv's to work.. We've got several very nice (and large) trainings created in captivate 4, but not having any luck getting the scorm 1.2 output to work on moodle 1.9 (content works, just not the flv's). I've spent far too many hours trying to troubleshoot this, am now months behind schedule, and need to make a change to get it up and running asap, even if that means going to a new LMS server, or abandoning captivate as authoring tool.

Any success stories with using captivate 4 and outputting scorm 1.2 with working flv's would be appreciated.
Kris

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Report · Feb 27, 2011

Thanks for the feedback, it's always good to know I'm not the only one! I agree that we did not want to give up the captivate as my wife is already used to it and has created at least a dozen courses in it, but I was at the end of my patience.

I must've spent at least 50-60 hours over the last 2 months trying to get the captivate/moodle solution running correctly. Always seems to just aallmost get there, but not quite all the way.

I finally got fed up and started looking at other solutions. I took the same original captivate 4 scorm 1.2 file I had generated (before the dozens of other test ones) and was up and running from scratch in less than an hour, including the flv's! using a new online solution from Rustici software, Scorm Cloud - http://scorm.com

Required no server install, setup or anything, just created an account and uploaded my scorm file!

They offer a free 100mb test, and their pricing seems reasonable. I would've paid a 6 months subscription fee just to avoid the headaches!

The interface and presentation far outclasses the moodle solution.

I'll be doing some additional production research, but at first look of their test site, it seems exactly suited to my small 2 dozen course requirements.

I would highly recommend that others having a headache give it a look.

Enjoy!

Kris