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ColdFusion = "old technology"

  • January 7, 2009
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I was told by in in-house IT person that they want to move the websites off of ColdFusion because it is "old technology". That is not the first time I've heard it, and I'm sure not the last by someone who still thinks that Jeremy Allaire is cooking up ColdFusion in his basement.

If anyone has a place that has stats about ColdFusion usage, number of developers, etc. I would appreciate it so I can have more ammo to argue my case that CF is an ever evolving platform that is owned by the largest provider of digital content and web solutions.

I already cited wikipedia's page, esp. the part about 14,000 developers worldwide contributing to the development of CF8.

thanks.
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    Correct answer Newsgroup_User
    Ian Skinner wrote:
    > Who's Using ColdFusion
    > http://www.forta.com/cf/using/
    >
    > ColdFusion 9 is in beta.
    > http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Centaur
    >
    > Adobe is developing a ColdFusion centric IDE.
    > http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Bolt
    >
    > ColdFusion is an natural part of both Adobe's Flex and Air rich internet
    > application frame works with hooks added to CFML with each update to aid
    > integration.

    A new one I just found through Ben Forta's site.
    ColdFusion Evangelism Kit
    http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/adobecoldfusionevangelismkit.pdf

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    Newsgroup_UserCorrect answer
    Inspiring
    January 7, 2009
    Ian Skinner wrote:
    > Who's Using ColdFusion
    > http://www.forta.com/cf/using/
    >
    > ColdFusion 9 is in beta.
    > http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Centaur
    >
    > Adobe is developing a ColdFusion centric IDE.
    > http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Bolt
    >
    > ColdFusion is an natural part of both Adobe's Flex and Air rich internet
    > application frame works with hooks added to CFML with each update to aid
    > integration.

    A new one I just found through Ben Forta's site.
    ColdFusion Evangelism Kit
    http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/adobecoldfusionevangelismkit.pdf
    chrome88Author
    Inspiring
    January 8, 2009
    quote:

    Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
    Ian Skinner wrote:

    A new one I just found through Ben Forta's site.
    ColdFusion Evangelism Kit
    http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/adobecoldfusionevangelismkit.pdf



    Niiiice. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.

    January 7, 2009
    Please add framework support
    Like ruby on rails
    like Groovy on Gails
    Spring something...

    this will save CF from loosing ground.

    CF is better than Groovy, better than Ruby or any new Dynamic language.

    Inspiring
    January 8, 2009
    quote:

    Originally posted by: Amm85
    Please add framework support
    Like ruby on rails
    like Groovy on Gails
    Spring something...

    this will save CF from loosing ground.

    CF is better than Groovy, better than Ruby or any new Dynamic language.




    Framework support???

    Google on: Coldfusion frameworks

    Personally i love Farcry: http://www.farcrycore.org / http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev

    I think most of the times people state that things are missing or old or whatever, they in fact didn't researched enough, at least i know i did a couple of times...
    tclaremont
    Inspiring
    January 7, 2009
    Just because it has been AROUND for ten years (and then some) does not mean it is old technology.

    Microsoft Office is what, 25 years old? Has your IT department dumped that, too? How about Windows? Heck, the PC itself is old technology, but we still have a couple billion of those kicking around.
    chrome88Author
    Inspiring
    January 7, 2009
    i have no idea what platform he is thinking of switching to, but, their technology requirements are not that robust. he is just operating under assumptions that he heard 10 years ago.

    thanks everyone for the links/input.
    tclaremont
    Inspiring
    January 7, 2009
    CF 4.5 is "old technology"
    CF 8 is "current technology"

    Calling CF "old" says a lot more about your "in-house IT person" than he would likely care to admit.
    Inspiring
    January 7, 2009
    What platform are your IT people moving to?

    If Java, it might help to examine how CF can be deployed to J2EE servers and interact with Java components via CFOBJECT. Note that CF itself runs on top of the JVM and that CF's enterprise edition can serve JSP content (I don't use this feature, someone please correct me if I am getting any details wrong here).

    If .NET, you may want to demonstrate how CF can access .NET objects via the CFOBJECT tag.

    Also, what is their definition of "old technology"?
    Inspiring
    January 7, 2009
    Who's Using ColdFusion
    http://www.forta.com/cf/using/

    ColdFusion 9 is in beta.
    http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Centaur

    Adobe is developing a ColdFusion centric IDE.
    http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Bolt

    ColdFusion is an natural part of both Adobe's Flex and Air rich internet
    application frame works with hooks added to CFML with each update to aid
    integration.