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November 10, 2011
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Adobe's New Upgrade Policy (for CS6)

  • November 10, 2011
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http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/adobe-creative-cloud-and-adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html - Posted by DAVID WADHWANI, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL MANAGER, DIGITAL MEDIA BUSINESS UNIT

Just saw this and I'm speechless.  Everyone knows about Muse by now and how they want to charge to continue to use the product and now today Adobe boldly makes this statement:

In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions).

That means no more 3 versions back.  Upgrade at every point or buy a new license when you need it again, or pay the subscription model for Adobe "Creative Cloud" for $49.99/month ( $599.88 / year ).

How does everyone else feel about this?

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    ALsp
    Legend
    November 10, 2011

    That's based on some Adobe surveys sent out and with an analysis by one

    of the survey recipients. While they might be able to hoodwink print

    designers, Dreamweaver is currently perceived as in-decline and it will

    take at least 2 phenomenal new versions to regain momentum and cred with

    advanced web developers.

    This where you saw it?

    http://blog.photoframd.com/2011/07/08/scary-news-about-adobe-cs6-maybe-no-upgrade-discount/

    I wouldn't take a site like that very seriously

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    ALsp
    Legend
    November 10, 2011

    Sorry Snake. I couldn't see your link as I peruse these forums primarily via email. So this was stated by an Adobe executuve. With a name like "Wadhwani" how can you not take him seriously? If they feel they have a captive market, then they will likely do what they feel they can get away with. This is not your uncle's type of company we're talking about. Integrity already flew up into the cloud a long time ago. Dreamweaver is a declining application - though it could be a phenomenal application again if someone at Adobe cared. I guess we'll see what happens. Dreamweaver is along for the ride and certainly not the star. We have nearly 60,000 customers and a large percentage of our customer support queries involve Dreamweaver CS4 or earlier. It would seem that only the diehards have actually upgraded the past few years.

    John Waller
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    November 10, 2011

    If true, then:

    1) It stinks and is a betrayal to customers who have been loyal over the years

    2) It'll increase piracy

    3) I hope there's a backlash in consumer sentiment but I doubt it. What's the alternative?

    4) It was inevitable. Microsoft stopped offering upgrade pricing for Office and no-one seems to care.

    Hopefully someone will come into the market and re-introduce competition.

    Ben MCommunity ExpertAuthor
    Community Expert
    November 10, 2011

    John to your point #4, that may be true, but Microsoft didn't introduce a per-use charge like Adobe is trying to push everyone to.  Even the Mac App Store is the same, companies are providing free upgrades to existing products and the products can be installed on an unlimited amount of computers.  I don't see Adobe lifting the computer limit as of right now.  And if it keeps going this way where does it stop?  Will we pay for software like a parking meter in a city and keep having to insert coins every hour?

    Al, to your statement:

    This is not your uncle's type of company we're talking about. Integrity already flew up into the cloud a long time ago. Dreamweaver is a declining application - though it could be a phenomenal application again if someone at Adobe cared. I guess we'll see what happens.

    It's a sad truth.  And for those customers who would want to go to CS6 who would want to buy CS5.5 first, just to upgrade immediately like they suggest?

    If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6.

    Looking back the whole Macromedia purchase to eliminate the competition, has not been a good thing.  Flash is being dropped from Mobile support and I wouldn't be surprised to see the desktop player follow in its footsteps, then there's Fireworks maybe it is just a POW, and Freehand is six feet under.  If nothing else things like this should only foster more competition in the industry to drive prices back down.

    Then you go look at the news with Adobe laying off 750 workers and this is just 2 years after the Lambert Walsh open letter apology for the horrible customer service that was plaguing Adobe ( http://blogs.adobe.com/captivate/2009/08/open_letter_to_our_customers_o.html ) that was posted all over this site.  I know there are plenty of great minds still at Adobe who care about the products they are making and could turn these into phenomal products again, as you mention Al.  But with all this PR surrounding them, it's going to take some effort to win back consumer confidence.