Check In/Check Out vs. Put/Get

Report · Apr 27, 2006

I'm using Check In/Check Out with a collaborative group on a huge project. If I understand correctly, we should NOT use Put/Get functions if we want to not write-over each others' stuff. Also, <F12> is the Put function as well as the way to view files you are updating. Thus, I need help to know the best method how to view files that are being edited on the local and running with both a global css and with server-side includes in the page. Do I need to Check In each page to the server before I can fully view it in the browser? Also, does each member of the team need to have a copy of the css on their local?

Report · Apr 27, 2006

> we should NOT use Put/Get functions if we want to not
> write-over each others' stuff.

Correct. Religiously. Under penalty of death.

> <F12> is the Put function as well as the
> way to view files you are updating.

No, F12 is the Preview function. It will, however, also PUT the file to the
server if you are also using the production directory there as your testing
server. This is bad BAD bad.

> Also, does
> each member of the team need to have a copy of the css on their local?

Yes. And they would need a copy of all include files too.

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"fps gold" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> I'm using Check In/Check Out with a collaborative group on a huge project.
> If I
> understand correctly, we should NOT use Put/Get functions if we want to
> not
> write-over each others' stuff. Also, <F12> is the Put function as well as
> the
> way to view files you are updating. Thus, I need help to know the best
> method
> how to view files that are being edited on the local and running with both
> a
> global css and with server-side includes in the page. Do I need to Check
> In
> each page to the server before I can fully view it in the browser? Also,
> does
> each member of the team need to have a copy of the css on their local?
>

Report · Apr 27, 2006

"if you are also using the production directory there as your testing server..." What does this mean? I thought that the remote server and the testing server were supposed to be the same thing? Also, how do I make global changes to the CSS if everyone else has a version of it on their local? And, thanks for the clarification on <F12>.

Report · Apr 27, 2006

> I thought that the remote server and the
> testing server were supposed to be the same thing?

No. In fact, I would NEVER have that arrangement. That means that when you
are editing a page, all your edits at each preview would be made live. My
testing server is always either my local site's root folder, or a remote
system != production system.

> Also, how do I make global
> changes to the CSS if everyone else has a version of it on their local

It's a tedious process, but you must be
systematic -

* have everyone up-synch the CSS file
* down-synch it to your local site
* make changes
* up-synch
* notify everyone that it's safe to work on the site again

Wish it were easier myself....

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"fps gold" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> "if you are also using the production directory there as your testing
> server..." What does this mean? I thought that the remote server and the
> testing server were supposed to be the same thing? Also, how do I make
> global
> changes to the CSS if everyone else has a version of it on their local?
> And,
> thanks for the clarification on <F12>.
>

Report · Apr 27, 2006

ok. so, i'm still a little confused. I have a local root folder on my computer. I have a remote server, which is network, on a box across the hall. we have a live server somewhere when this whole project is done but i'm not the one in charge of that. So, what is my testing server? Is testing only viewing pages as they are edited? Or is it like a development site where you want the whole site to be and thus, for now, it's the remote server?

Report · Apr 27, 2006

one more thing: if our remote server is not actually live for customers but only internally, why couldn't we all work off of the remote files and upload/checkout to the live server eventually? do we really need local copies of everything?

Report · Apr 27, 2006

Ahh - I see. OK - back to your original configuration, then. The remote
site is not on the production/live server, it's on the staging server. Then
you can have the testing server there. The testing server can be ANYWHERE
that is -

not the live server, but is able to serve webpages to your local browser.

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"fps gold" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> ok. so, i'm still a little confused. I have a local root folder on my
> computer.
> I have a remote server, which is network, on a box across the hall. we
> have a
> live server somewhere when this whole project is done but i'm not the one
> in
> charge of that. So, what is my testing server? Is testing only viewing
> pages as
> they are edited? Or is it like a development site where you want the whole
> site
> to be and thus, for now, it's the remote server?
>

Report · Apr 27, 2006

If everyone were working off a shared 'local' site, then checkin/checkout
would not work at all. The chance for catastrophe would be immense.

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"fps gold" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> one more thing: if our remote server is not actually live for customers
> but
> only internally, why couldn't we all work off of the remote files and
> upload/checkout to the live server eventually? do we really need local
> copies
> of everything?
>

Report · Apr 27, 2006

i'm back to my original question then. i have a local root folder (with a copy of the stylesheet and includes now) and i have a remote server and testing server that are the same. How does Check In/Out work when i press <F12> and PUT the files to the testing server to view them? Does each member of the team need to Check Out the files they are working on before they can view them?

Report · Apr 27, 2006

Each member of the team must check out files they want to work on. They can
then preview all they want. This will not tread on anyone else's changes
since the file, being checked out, cannot be edited by anyone else.

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"fps gold" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> i'm back to my original question then. i have a local root folder (with a
> copy
> of the stylesheet and includes now) and i have a remote server and testing
> server that are the same. How does Check In/Out work when i press <F12>
> and PUT
> the files to the testing server to view them? Does each member of the team
> need
> to Check In the files they are working on before they can view them?
>

Report · Apr 27, 2006

Ah-ha! I actually meant "Check In" before they view, but now I understand. <F12> isn't "putting" them anywhere except in the browser temporarily for viewing! Wow, took me a while...

Thanks for being patient

I feel like I can finally sort it out now. Tommorrow, I get to explain it to everyone else. Thanks again. Later.

Report · Apr 27, 2006

Good luck!

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"fps gold" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Ah-ha! I actually meant "Check In" before they view, but now I understand.
> <F12> isn't "putting" them anywhere except in the browser temporarily for
> viewing! Wow, took me a while...
>
> Thanks for being patient

I feel like I can finally sort it out now.
> Tommorrow, I get to explain it to everyone else. Thanks again. Later.
>

Check In/Check Out vs. Put/Get

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