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having issue with fluidgrid DW CS6 ,regarding responsive embedding

Community Beginner ,
Sep 21, 2022 Sep 21, 2022

Hi, 

 

so this is all the code I am using, at the bottom of each segment you can see the part I just made relating to responsive embedding, I named it videoWrapper and videoWrapper iframe:
uet if you go to this link https://onvermijdelijk.nl/TheThirdTemple.html we do not see any responsiveness. whereas on my local device we see responsiveness, but with an bug...namely that for mobile it jumps out of the screen.
all and all, I'm stuck. I hope someone here knows what to do.

@charset "utf-8";
/* Simple fluid media
Note: Fluid media requires that you remove the media's height and width attributes from the HTML
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fluid-images/
*/
img, object, embed, video {
max-width: 100%;
}
/* IE 6 does not support max-width so default to width 100% */
.ie6 img {
width:100%;
}

/*
Dreamweaver Fluid Grid Properties
----------------------------------
dw-num-cols-mobile: 11;
dw-num-cols-tablet: 17;
dw-num-cols-desktop: 21;
dw-gutter-percentage: 25;

Inspiration from "Responsive Web Design" by Ethan Marcotte
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/responsive-web-design

and Golden Grid System by Joni Korpi
http://goldengridsystem.com/
*/

/* Mobile Layout: 480px and below. */

.gridContainer {
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
width: 89.3454%;
padding-left: 0.8272%;
padding-right: 0.8272%;
}
#LayoutDiv1 {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#navigation {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
font-family: "Sitka Banner";
font-size: 14px;
color: #FFF;
padding-top: 5px;
padding-bottom: 18px;
}
#body {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
font-family: "Sitka Banner";
font-size: 12px;
color: #FFF;
}
#footer {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
font-family: "Sitka Banner";
color: #FFF;
}
#Misc-nav {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#minister-title {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#minister-omschrijving {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#Minister-image {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#select-nation-flag-nav {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#videoWrapper {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#videoWrapper iframe {
position: absolute;
top: 0;
left: 0;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}
}
/* Tablet Layout: 481px to 768px. Inherits styles from: Mobile Layout. */

@media only screen and (min-width: 481px) {
.gridContainer {
width: 91.9058%;
padding-left: 0.547%;
padding-right: 0.547%;
}
#LayoutDiv1 {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#navigation {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
font-family: "Sitka Banner";
font-size: 18px;
color: #FFF;
padding-top: 5px;
padding-bottom: 18px;
}
#body {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
font-family: "Sitka Banner";
font-size: 18px;
color: #FFF;
}
#footer {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
font-family: "Sitka Banner";
font-size: 16px;
color: #FFF;
}
#Misc-nav {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#minister-title {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#minister-omschrijving {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#Minister-image {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#select-nation-flag-nav {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#videoWrapper {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#videoWrapper iframe {
position: absolute;
top: 0;
left: 0;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}
}

/* Desktop Layout: 769px to a max of 1232px. Inherits styles from: Mobile Layout and Tablet Layout. */

@media only screen and (min-width: 769px) {
.gridContainer {
width: 89.1428%;
max-width: 1563px;
padding-left: 0.4285%;
padding-right: 0.4285%;
margin: auto;
}
#LayoutDiv1 {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#navigation {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
font-family: "Sitka Banner";
color: #FFF;
font-size: x-large;
padding-top: 7px;
padding-bottom: 22px;
}
#body {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
font-family: "Sitka Banner";
font-size: 22px;
color: #FFF;
}
#footer {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
font-family: "Sitka Banner";
font-size: 22px;
color: #FFF;
}
#Misc-nav {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#minister-title {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#minister-omschrijving {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#Minister-image {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#select-nation-flag-nav {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
}
#videoWrapper {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
position: relative;
padding-bottom: 56.25%;
height: 0px;
}
#videoWrapper iframe {
position: absolute;
top: 0;
left: 0;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}
}

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LEGEND , Sep 23, 2022 Sep 23, 2022
 

 

Add the 2 lines of css shown below in red to your '480px and below media query: - /*Mobile Layout: 480px and below.*/

 

#videoWrapper {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
position: relative;
padding-bottom: 56.25%
;
}

 

The other 2 media queries will inherit these properties. No need to keep duplicating the same css over and over again for each media query BUT I guess that is the way fluid-grids automated the workflow.

 

Fluid-grid is now considered a poor choice to use fo

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I'd use vue.js with Astro static site generator, way to go, no on second thoughts ld use Tailwind. Forget that use React, no wait a minute l think Alpine would be more suited, perhaps php, hang on node maybe, vanilla not possible of course, out of the question, no wait next.js is quite good lm told.......blah blah blah. How the hell did a simple process become so ridiculously stupid.


By @osgood_

 

What a meager list of alternatives. Is this all you have got?

 


By @BenPleysier

 

It's laughable when 2 li

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Community Expert ,
Sep 21, 2022 Sep 21, 2022

There's not much to say.

1. CS6 is outdated software from 2012.  Browsers & devices have changed a lot in 10 years.

 

2. Adobe abandoned FluidGridLayouts and replaced it with Bootstrap's mobile-first framework.   At best, FGL was flawed and way too temperamental.  At worst, it was a disaster.  I stopped using it.  I can't recommend it for production use in 2022.

 

Below is a working Bootstrap demo with responsive embeds from YouTube  -- 4 examples at different aspect ratios. Copy & paste code into a new, blank document to test.

 

<!doctype html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
<title>Bootstrap Responsive Video ~ version 4.5.2</title>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
<!--Bootstrap CSS on CDN-->
<link rel="stylesheet" href="https://stackpath.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/4.5.2/css/bootstrap.min.css">
</head>
<body>
<nav class="navbar navbar-expand-lg navbar-dark bg-dark"> <a class="navbar-brand" href="#">Brand/Logo</a>
<button class="navbar-toggler" type="button" data-toggle="collapse" data-target="#navbarSupportedContent" aria-controls="navbarSupportedContent" aria-expanded="false" aria-label="Toggle navigation"> <span class="navbar-toggler-icon"></span> </button>
<div class="collapse navbar-collapse" id="navbarSupportedContent">
<ul class="navbar-nav mr-auto">
<li class="nav-item active"> <a class="nav-link" href="#">Home <span class="sr-only">(current)</span></a> </li>
<li class="nav-item"> <a class="nav-link" href="#">Link</a> </li>
<li class="nav-item"> <a class="nav-link" href="#">Link</a> </li>
<li class="nav-item"> <a class="nav-link" href="#">Link</a> </li>
</ul>
<!--Search form-->
<form class="form-inline my-2 my-lg-0">
<input class="form-control mr-sm-2" type="search" placeholder="Search" aria-label="Search">
<button class="btn btn-outline-info my-2 my-sm-0" type="submit">Search</button>
</form>
</div>
</nav>
<div class="container">
<div class="row">
<div class="jumbotron mx-auto text-center">
<h2>Bootstrap 4.5.2</h2>
<p>Responsive video embeds. </p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="row">
<div class="col-lg-6">

<h2>Aspect ratio 1:1</h2>
<div class="embed-responsive embed-responsive-1by1">
<iframe class="embed-responsive-item" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tgbNymZ7vqY"></iframe>
</div>
</div>
<div class="col-lg-6">
<h2>Aspect ratio 4:3</h2>
<div class="embed-responsive embed-responsive-4by3">
<iframe class="embed-responsive-item" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tgbNymZ7vqY"></iframe>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<hr>
<div class="row">
<div class="col-lg-6">
<h2>Aspect ratio 16:9</h2>
<div class="embed-responsive embed-responsive-16by9">
<iframe class="embed-responsive-item" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tgbNymZ7vqY"></iframe>
</div>
</div>
<div class="col-lg-6">
<h2>Aspect ratio 21:9</h2>
<div class="embed-responsive embed-responsive-21by9">
<iframe class="embed-responsive-item" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tgbNymZ7vqY"></iframe>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<hr>
<div class="row">
<div class="col">
<footer>Footer goes here.... </footer>
</div>
</div>
</div>

<!--First jQuery then Popper then Bootstrap JS--> 
<script src="https://code.jquery.com/jquery-3.2.1.min.js" integrity="sha256-hwg4gsxgFZhOsEEamdOYGBf13FyQuiTwlAQgxVSNgt4=" crossorigin="anonymous"></script> 
<script src="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/popper.js/1.14.7/umd/popper.min.js"></script> 
<script src="https://stackpath.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/4.5.2/js/bootstrap.min.js"></script>
</body>
</html>

 

Bootstrap tutorials:

https://www.w3schools.com/bootstrap4/

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
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Community Beginner ,
Sep 22, 2022 Sep 22, 2022

Hi Nancy,
can I just paste this code into the exsisting master.css

 

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 22, 2022 Sep 22, 2022

Also I just made a new page and pasted the code into the Source Code area. I swapped out the youtube link for the 16:9 with a youtube clip I wish to embed.
code looks like this:
<div class="row">
<div class="col-lg-6">
<h2>Aspect ratio 16:9</h2>
<div class="embed-responsive embed-responsive-16by9">
<iframe class="embed-responsive-item" src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF3kjr9_nRE&t=1s></iframe>
</div>
</div>

but when I hit preview I do not see anything of it. only the already exsisting embeds are shown. yet here I do see it.
why is that?

kind regardes,

Roy

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Community Expert ,
Sep 22, 2022 Sep 22, 2022

You're using invalid code.   Your iframe is missing closing quotes.

<iframe class="embed-responsive-item" src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF3kjr9_nRE&t=1s"></iframe>

 

To test locally, refresh your browser with Ctrl + R or F5.

 

That said, can't have it both ways.  FluidGrid won't work with Bootstrap and Bootstrap won't work with FluidGrids. 

 

Bootstrap only works with a Bootstrap document containing Bootstrap CSS, jQuery JS, Bootstrap JS.

 

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 23, 2022 Sep 23, 2022

Hello Nancy,

I am still not able to get it to work. I hope this screenshot will help out in seeing the error. As I do not see the error, maybe you can put a red outline or something where the error is.bootstrap issue.jpg

furthermore I am now asking myself how to replace the fluidgrid master.css with the bootstrap. or do I need to start from zero and build the site again? www.onvermijdelijk.nl is the index and all the pages with .html are made from the same template

thank you.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 23, 2022 Sep 23, 2022

Also I do not see the text getting smaller, as the screensize is getting smaller, using the bootstrap template you provided. which makes it less desired. Is there a bootstrap template that functions the same as fluidgrid? if not then I would prefer a fix for the fluidgrid than to use bootstrap.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 23, 2022 Sep 23, 2022

last comment before I hear back from you.
The way the bootstrap template works, as you provided it, leaves me no desire to actually use it. The fluidgrid setup I have made works fine and leaves you that, imo, stupid hamburger menu thing. 

So there must be a better solution. Poeple may say bootstrap is better than fluidgrid, I do not share this view. when you look at our index page www.onvermijdelijk.nl you can see that the logo at top is very nice and fluid. this Bootstrap template does not give me the same capability or does it? if it does, great.

So in the end, all we want is for the site to be as it is, but than also with responsive emdedded videos. 
Again, when looking at this page https://onvermijdelijk.nl/TheThirdTemple.html you can clearly see it works fine. it is only when we get to small screen it crashes. There must be a error in the code. but I do not see it. if you could help me fine the erro in the code I would not need to reinvent the website, just to get bootstrap responsiveness. Fluid grid works fine. Or atleast it should work fine. I am convinced there is a small error in the code. As my desktop shows the same error as my phone. Namely when the screen size is in the area of the mobile settings, the embedded clip jumps out of the rule and takes over the page. As you can see in screensshot 3, 1 and 2 show it is fluid. yet also show that the text does not get smaller, as it should according to the css code. So there is clearly a few errors in the code. I do not have enough understanding to see them. But I now think to understand what you said, that the fluidgrid was broke from the beginnen. It looks like DW CS6 was shipped with flawed fluidgrid code. In essence all that is required is that somebody with knowhow fix the fluidgrid master.css bugs/ errors and publish the corrected code here at Adobe in the appropriate section. and Here for starters 🙂 😄 
here are the screenshots:
FLuidgrid_-working_-example_-1.jpgFLuidgrid_-working_-example_-2.jpgFLuidgrid_-working_-example_-3.jpg

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LEGEND ,
Sep 23, 2022 Sep 23, 2022
 

 

Add the 2 lines of css shown below in red to your '480px and below media query: - /*Mobile Layout: 480px and below.*/

 

#videoWrapper {
clear: both;
float: left;
margin-left: 0;
width: 100%;
display: block;
position: relative;
padding-bottom: 56.25%
;
}

 

The other 2 media queries will inherit these properties. No need to keep duplicating the same css over and over again for each media query BUT I guess that is the way fluid-grids automated the workflow.

 

Fluid-grid is now considered a poor choice to use for responsive constructions and has been removed by Adobe and replaced with Bootstrap but I wouldnt consider using Bootstrap either. These days it is way too easy to create responsive structures without the aid of any frameworks.

 

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Community Expert ,
Sep 23, 2022 Sep 23, 2022

FluidGrids are such a bad user-experience on so many levels, it's just not worth salvaging.  

 

I don't know how much coding experience the OP has or how much effort they want to put into this project. 

 

Bootstrap is an expedient solution they can start using right away.  But it's not the only solution.  CSS Flexbox and CSS Grids are another option.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
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Community Beginner ,
Oct 14, 2022 Oct 14, 2022

osgood_

Thank you so much for that tip. as you can see in the link below, the fluidgrid is working great. Excellent. way better than the bootstrap, as the bootstrap does not make the letters smaller for smaller screen size.

https://onvermijdelijk.nl/TheThirdTemple.html

 

Kind regards,

Roy

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Community Expert ,
Oct 14, 2022 Oct 14, 2022

This topic reminds me of a super slow-motion train wreck.

 

train-slow-motion-super-slow-motion.gif

 

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LEGEND ,
Oct 14, 2022 Oct 14, 2022
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This topic reminds me of a super slow-motion train wreck.

 

By @Nancy OShea

 

This topic reminds me why I'm relieved I no longer have to spend my days f***ing my head up doing it. Nice to just appreciate life rather than suffer the sh*te web-development has turned into over recent years. Too many opinions, too few real knowledgable people involved these days sadly.

 

If some were to extract their head from their posterier for just a few seconds the answer lies within the code used by the OP, NOT the misconception that the only solution was to rebuilt the page, using some dog awful solution, which they had no desire to do so.

 

Anyway moving on....happy days....for me at least.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 14, 2022 Oct 14, 2022

@osgood_ ,

You never worked with FluidGrids and thus have no idea how awful it was to work with. 

 

FACT 1: The temperamental UI was often unusable.  Starting over was the only escape. 

FACT 2: FGLayouts were a nice idea 10 years ago but they were never fully realised to support nested divs, etc...  Too many limitations, not enough rewards.

FACT 3: Adobe abandoned FGL only 2 years after it came out.

 

Anyway, it's not my problem.  You couldn't pay me to use FGL.  And I don't recommend anyone using it today.  On that note, I'm outta here.

 

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LEGEND ,
Oct 14, 2022 Oct 14, 2022
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@osgood_,

You never worked with FluidGrids and thus have no idea how awful it was to work with. 

 

 

 


By @Nancy OShea

 

Wrong, I did explore fluid grid BUT why would I want to use any dumb css framework, Bootstrap included, when its easier to write your own responsive construction, particularly these days.

 

Going back to the page in question - the css being used is nothing short of perhaps some simple one column css that I might even write, minus the repetition, so theres is NO necessity to suggest the OP re-write the whole construction when an addition of 2 lines of css would solve their particular issue and had no connection to using fluid grid or not.

 

What's gone on here, as more often than not, is people losing the ability to think logically or do anything for themselves apart from suggest using another awful framework.

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Community Expert ,
Sep 23, 2022 Sep 23, 2022

Have a look at what I have done with the videos

https://bunchoblokes.org/bob-tv

This was easily achieved using Bootstrap 5 (not 4).

 

The reason that I am showing you this is because Dreamweaver is approaching EOL. You will need to use some other tool to create/maintain your website. This means that Templates (the Dreamweaver ones) and Fluid Grid (also the Dreamweaver ones) will no longer be part of your arsenal.

 

It is up to you. I would do as @Nancy OShea suggests, start again. But then using Bootstrap 5, mainly because this version does not require jQuery.

 

Wappler is the DMXzone-made Dreamweaver replacement and includes the best of their powerful extensions, as well as much more!
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LEGEND ,
Sep 24, 2022 Sep 24, 2022

I'd use vue.js with Astro static site generator, way to go, no on second thoughts ld use Tailwind. Forget that use React, no wait a minute l think Alpine would be more suited, perhaps php, hang on node maybe, vanilla not possible of course, out of the question, no wait next.js is quite good lm told.......blah blah blah. How the hell did a simple process become so ridiculously stupid. You could put 10 developers in a room and none would agree or know what the other was talking about.........gotta laugh otherwise you'd cry.

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Sep 24, 2022 Sep 24, 2022
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I'd use vue.js with Astro static site generator, way to go, no on second thoughts ld use Tailwind. Forget that use React, no wait a minute l think Alpine would be more suited, perhaps php, hang on node maybe, vanilla not possible of course, out of the question, no wait next.js is quite good lm told.......blah blah blah. How the hell did a simple process become so ridiculously stupid.


By @osgood_

 

What a meager list of alternatives. Is this all you have got?

 

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LEGEND ,
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I'd use vue.js with Astro static site generator, way to go, no on second thoughts ld use Tailwind. Forget that use React, no wait a minute l think Alpine would be more suited, perhaps php, hang on node maybe, vanilla not possible of course, out of the question, no wait next.js is quite good lm told.......blah blah blah. How the hell did a simple process become so ridiculously stupid.


By @osgood_

 

What a meager list of alternatives. Is this all you have got?

 


By @BenPleysier

 

It's laughable when 2 lines of css would solve the OPs problem and yet a complete re-construction is being suggested by some people. I guess that's what happens when you become too dependent on a specific workflow, it stifles one's ability to think sensibly.

 

Even if DW is EOLed it won't stop working and you could get another 3/4/5 years out of it depending where you are in your OS life-cycle. In the mean time, yes, one could be looking at a more robust solution.

 

It's this pathetic approach of 'oh well the website doesn't use Bootstrap, so it isn't going to work mentality that concerns me, it's like being amongst a lot of brain dead zombies at times.

 

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Sep 25, 2022 Sep 25, 2022
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Even if DW is EOLed it won't stop working and you could get another 3/4/5 years out of it depending where you are in your OS life-cycle.


By @osgood_

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The OP only has access to deprecated Fluid Grids because they're using discontinued software.  Adobe ended the FGL experiment in 2013.

 

I can't guarantee how much longer CS6 will be accessible. Adobe already pulled the plug on CS2-CS4 activation services.  CS5 & CS6 won't be too far behind. They're both on life support as we speak.

 

Apple's new OS, Ventura, will be released to the public soon. Adobe can't keep putting resources into products that don't work on modern computers.  

 

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LEGEND ,
Sep 25, 2022 Sep 25, 2022
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Even if DW is EOLed it won't stop working and you could get another 3/4/5 years out of it depending where you are in your OS life-cycle.


By @osgood_

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The OP only has access to deprecated Fluid Grids because they're using discontinued software.  Adobe ended the FGL experiment in 2013.

 

I can't guarantee how much longer CS6 will be accessible. Adobe already pulled the plug on CS2-CS4 activation services.  CS5 & CS6 won't be too far behind. They're both on life support as we speak.

 

Apple's new OS, Ventura, will be released to the public soon. Adobe can't keep putting resources into products that don't work on modern computers.  

 


By @Nancy OShea

 

 I suspect Adobe will keep CS6 running for another couple of years yet before end of life. They dont just announce 'thats it - full stop' - they give enough time for those still using it to adapt.  As I said if youre NOT eager to update your OS there wont be any issues. I dont usually update my OS for the duration of the computers life (5/6 years) as it can have an impact on software that is critical to your workflow. If you have bags of money to throw at software, no problem. I'm not a 'subscriber' to rip-off annual subscription prices. Ill find a suitably priced product and one that might rewards loyalty that does the job or just get FREE ones, theres plenty of those for web-development. 

 

More to the point the OP just wanted a quick fix for a minor issue, not a complete rebuilt, that allows them time to quickly push out the website as is and then consider the advise given here in relation to the use of a poor solution.  

 

Anyway that website has nothing in it relating to using fluid grid apart from some comment at the top of the css file. The actual css is just pure vanilla css.

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Sep 25, 2022 Sep 25, 2022

That may be true for Creative Cloud apps but not for Creative Suite.

 

Adobe gave no prior notice about the CS4 EOL.  One day it worked, the next day it didn't.  We learned about it from users who could no longer activate their products.  Some users are already complaining about CS5 activation.

 

Adobe removed all Creative Suite installers from their website. I've been urging users to get prepared for the inevitable. 

 

Creative Cloud products are still supported, even if only minimally.  But Creative Suite is on its last legs.

 

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LEGEND ,
Sep 25, 2022 Sep 25, 2022

That's not correct, CS4 DID have a prior warning giving you time to move to a newer version of DW, each time the program started it suggested you upgrade. I forget how long the warning was though, it didn't just stop l can tell you that much. 

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Community Expert ,
Sep 25, 2022 Sep 25, 2022

Upgrade notices are automatic generic messages without connection to activation services.

 

Activation is essential to use the software.  No official announcement was made about CS4 activation ending.   It just happened one day out of the blue.  Adobe didn't prepare Community Experts it was coming. It was a total surprise to everyone, particularly since the website had not been updated.  Since then, the website has been updated to reflect that CS4 is dead.

https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite.html

 

Previously, Adobe issued an official announcement about CS3 shutting down.  They temporarily gave users an activation-free version.  CS4 users weren't so lucky.

 

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LEGEND ,
Sep 26, 2022 Sep 26, 2022

Maybe it was cs3 then. I do know one of them gave you a specific time period before the program couldn't  be used again in the form of a time bar each time the program was opened.

 

If, as you say, there was no advanced warning for other versions then that tells you a lot about Adobe as a company, they don't care about their customers, an unfortunate side effect which seems to be popular with the majority of large companies.

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