Learning ASP.NET

> I'm not a "hard-core" programmer, but have used basic ASP Classic for a
> while. Can you suggest any favorite sites online to learn ASP.NET?

First, ask yourself why ASP.net?

If you like the style of ASP, then PHP would probably be a better upgrade.

If you're keen on going to an OOP model and are OK doing most of your work
in a microsoft/corporate world, then ASP.net is a good choice.

to start learning it, asp.net (the web site) is a great place to start.

Do note that you do NOT want to use Dreamweaver for .net development,
though. You'll want to get Visual Studio

> Also, would it be better to learn the C# or VB.Net versions of ASP.NET?

They do the same thing. Both use the .net framework and same concepts. So,
it's really just a syntax difference. VB will be more familiar to you if you
crom from ASP

-Darrel

Wow, thank you for such a thorough response. I will heed your advice and
look into these texts you refer to.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.


"JackPot" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>I was a VB developer and learned C#. Why? Because it helped me master
>JavaScript which has the punctuation and the look and feel exactly the same
>as C# and Java. Only a fool would try to contend a person can master web
>development without mastering client-side development which requires using
>JavaScript. See where this goes? Actually, its more pertinent to ask if you
>"see" where its come from.
>
> Even CSS has been derived from C. We learn three or more languages then
> for the price of one so to speak. Does it make sense to think and act
> pragmatically?
>
> Finally, IMO stay away from the story books for now. As a former classroom
> instructor given the choice to select our own textbooks I and other
> instructors I knew and know always did just that: SELECTED REAL TEXTBOOKS.
>
> The best textbooks I know about and have used in and out of the classroom
> can be ordered for review at Barnes & Noble for example. They are
> published by Deitel & Deitel [1]. They are more expensive but worth every
> cent and the best reference on your book shelf. If you have a local
> university nearby (not the two year sissie "college") visit their
> bookstore and check out their textbooks.
>
> Also, get yourself into a LANGUAGE newsgroup like
> news://microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp where you'll start hearing
> more sound advice and recommendations about books that will help you learn
> OOP because that's what you want to learn: OOP. Repeat after me: OOP!
> You'll hear names like Troelsen and others. Heed that advice as its OOP
> you want to learn.
>
> After ten years of this endeavor I consider APress and WROX the most
> prolific publishers who publish the --most complete-- story books
> but --also-- have some of the best reference works around anyway such as
> the "Class Design Handbook" from WROX.
>
> CLASS DESIGN IS A MUST HAVE SKILL if you are to become competent with OOP
> which is NOTHING LIKE ASP SCRIPTING. That handbook is now only found used
> from Amazon. If you wimp out and go VB there is a VB class design handbook
> as well.
>
> Good luck. Prepare for --about a year-- and perhaps more of serious study
> which most competent developers agree is about the period of time more or
> less it will take and has taken most to make the transition to a
> respectable degree of competency with OOP. I'm still learning...
>
>
> [1] http://deitel.com/
>
>
>
> "Jason Cook" <jason@gcstulsa.com> wrote in message
> news:fvdanu$5h7$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> I'm not a "hard-core" programmer, but have used basic ASP Classic for a
>> while. Can you suggest any favorite sites online to learn ASP.NET?
>>
>> Also, would it be better to learn the C# or VB.Net versions of ASP.NET?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>

Thank you for your input.

"Julian Roberts" <nospam@charon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The SAMS books are pretty good for beginners. There's not a lot to choose
> between C# and VB at our level. I'd suggest VB, particularly if you used
> VB Script with ASP.
>
> --
> Jules
> http://www.charon.co.uk/products.aspx
> Charon Cart
> Ecommerce for ASP/ASP.NET
>
>
> "Jason Cook" <jason@gcstulsa.com> wrote in message
> news:fvdanu$5h7$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> I'm not a "hard-core" programmer, but have used basic ASP Classic for a
>> while. Can you suggest any favorite sites online to learn ASP.NET?
>>
>> Also, would it be better to learn the C# or VB.Net versions of ASP.NET?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>
>

I was a VB developer and learned C#. Why? Because it helped me master
JavaScript which has the punctuation and the look and feel exactly the same
as C# and Java. Only a fool would try to contend a person can master web
development without mastering client-side development which requires using
JavaScript. See where this goes? Actually, its more pertinent to ask if you
"see" where its come from.

Even CSS has been derived from C. We learn three or more languages then for
the price of one so to speak. Does it make sense to think and act
pragmatically?

Finally, IMO stay away from the story books for now. As a former classroom
instructor given the choice to select our own textbooks I and other
instructors I knew and know always did just that: SELECTED REAL TEXTBOOKS.

The best textbooks I know about and have used in and out of the classroom
can be ordered for review at Barnes & Noble for example. They are published
by Deitel & Deitel [1]. They are more expensive but worth every cent and the
best reference on your book shelf. If you have a local university nearby
(not the two year sissie "college") visit their bookstore and check out
their textbooks.

Also, get yourself into a LANGUAGE newsgroup like
news://microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp where you'll start hearing
more sound advice and recommendations about books that will help you learn
OOP because that's what you want to learn: OOP. Repeat after me: OOP! You'll
hear names like Troelsen and others. Heed that advice as its OOP you want to
learn.

After ten years of this endeavor I consider APress and WROX the most
prolific publishers who publish the --most complete-- story books
but --also-- have some of the best reference works around anyway such as the
"Class Design Handbook" from WROX.

CLASS DESIGN IS A MUST HAVE SKILL if you are to become competent with OOP
which is NOTHING LIKE ASP SCRIPTING. That handbook is now only found used
from Amazon. If you wimp out and go VB there is a VB class design handbook
as well.

Good luck. Prepare for --about a year-- and perhaps more of serious study
which most competent developers agree is about the period of time more or
less it will take and has taken most to make the transition to a respectable
degree of competency with OOP. I'm still learning...


[1] http://deitel.com/



"Jason Cook" <jason@gcstulsa.com> wrote in message
news:fvdanu$5h7$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> I'm not a "hard-core" programmer, but have used basic ASP Classic for a
> while. Can you suggest any favorite sites online to learn ASP.NET?
>
> Also, would it be better to learn the C# or VB.Net versions of ASP.NET?
>
> Thank you,
>
>

The SAMS books are pretty good for beginners. There's not a lot to choose
between C# and VB at our level. I'd suggest VB, particularly if you used VB
Script with ASP.

--
Jules
http://www.charon.co.uk/products.aspx
Charon Cart
Ecommerce for ASP/ASP.NET


"Jason Cook" <jason@gcstulsa.com> wrote in message
news:fvdanu$5h7$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> I'm not a "hard-core" programmer, but have used basic ASP Classic for a
> while. Can you suggest any favorite sites online to learn ASP.NET?
>
> Also, would it be better to learn the C# or VB.Net versions of ASP.NET?
>
> Thank you,
>
>