"Fort Knox" for E-commerce

clintonG wrote:

> Meanwhile, if you really want to use an analogy like Fort Knox you should at
> least be responsible and learn that there is no more gold in Fort Knox. The
> last remnants of the Fort Know gold was in the basement of the World Trade
> Center towers they blew up on 9-011-2001. You see, Fort Knox was proven to
> be no more secure than the traitors that were allowed to control it. You
> see, its not the lock on the door dude but those controlling the key.

As a symbol of an impregnable vault, the bullion depository has
become a semi-common phrase (at least in North America) used when one
describes how well protected an object or location is. The item is said
to be "locked up tighter than Fort Knox."

By the way Clinton, if one first throws a brick before one looks, one
tends to miss the target.

http://www.usmint.gov

The United States Bullion Depository Fort Knox, Kentucky

* Amount of present gold holdings: 147.3 million ounces.
* The only gold removed has been very small quantities used to test
the purity of gold during regularly scheduled audits. Except for these
samples, no gold has been transferred to or from the Depository for many
years.

Oh, that's right, you don't trust the gov to tell you the truth so why
trust the web page? In that case, never mind.

Darrel,

Perhaps you do it right, perhaps you don't. Who's to say? Who's to
determine if your standards are good or not?

From you to me, I take your word to be good.

>Software and security designers should, indeed.

I think there are a lot of designers with good intentions that just
don't know what they don't know. How many of us think we know what we
need to know about securing data yet, given the right tools, hackers can
get in.
The only point of Clintons, I feel, to be valid as it relates to this is
the whole issue of Government watching what we buy. This is a concern
but is anything stopping the US gov from doing what it wants today?

How many of you out there have purchased online and how many of you are
sure that information was secure? So how many shopping carts are out
there and who has access to those databases? Who developed them? In
general, how many web designers don't have insertion attack protection
in place?

This is what I mean, there's no standard and no real system. I don't
necessarily trust governments but I trust corporations and programmers
and designers less but ONLY because I don't know who they are.

>We have standardized best practices and methodologies.

In other words, we have guidelines but there's no guarantee that people
know what they are or that they're followed. How often have we heard
that some large company that HAD these practices in place, was hacked
into? That's with companies with huge resources and sophisticated
practices.

Again, I say we need an international standard. We need a proverbial
"Fort Knox."

Let's just say your post is STRANGE and let it go at that.

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"clintonG" <csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:er7bab$903$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> It is overwhelming -- initially -- because the truth really is stranger
> than fiction.
>
> <%= Clinton
>
>
> "darrel" <notreal@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:er57al$n6i$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>> Have an epiphany and learn the truth about what the founders called
>>> "domestic enemies" and how the domestic enemies (democrats and
>>> republicans ) violated the U.S. Constitution and have given control of
>>> our nation's monetary system to Zionist jew bankers who were given
>>> complete control of the nation's monetary system in 1913 when the phoney
>>> jew banks they call the "Federal Reserve" were formed. That's when and
>>> how the jews got control of everything that matters.
>>
>> I was going to write a response but your entire post just short circuited
>> my brain for a while. Wow. Good thing it's Friday!
>>
>> -Darrel
>>
>
>

That dude they call Jesus too.

<%= Clinton

"Rachael Caldwell" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:er587i$o0v$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> wow, Henry Ford all over again.
>
> "clintonG" <csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
> news:er4sev$a4u$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> What do I think?
>> I think when you have an RFID chip stuck up your @ss so you can use the
> web
>> to buy or sell buy t-shirts you will not want to remember what you asked
>> for.
>>
>> Meanwhile, if you really want to use an analogy like Fort Knox you should
> at
>> least be responsible and learn that there is no more gold in Fort Knox.
> The
>> last remnants of the Fort Know gold was in the basement of the World
>> Trade
>> Center towers they blew up on 9-011-2001. You see, Fort Knox was proven
>> to
>> be no more secure than the traitors that were allowed to control it. You
>> see, its not the lock on the door dude but those controlling the key.
> That's
>> why philosophically the government is not the solution. Furthermore,
>> don't
>> you remember how the pif Mayor of New York Goonliani had the first
>> responders put at gun point and taken off the pile while they removed the
>> gold or were you asleep that day too?
>>
>> So do something for your country. WAKE UP! Do something that will help
>> you
>> and your family and friends. WAKE UP!
>>
>> Have an epiphany and learn the truth about what the founders called
>> "domestic enemies" and how the domestic enemies (democrats and
> republicans )
>> violated the U.S. Constitution and have given control of our nation's
>> monetary system to Zionist jew bankers who were given complete control of
>> the nation's monetary system in 1913 when the phoney jew banks they call
> the
>> "Federal Reserve" were formed. That's when and how the jews got control
>> of
>> everything that matters.
>>
>> Go to video.google.com and watch a movie made by a whistle blower named
>> Arron Russo (allegedly a well known hollywood jew actually working as an
>> "independent producer"). Mr. Russo's movie is called "From Freedom to
>> Fascism" which was made to help people learn the truth that democrats and
>> republicans are traitors and have been serving Zionist jews for many
> years.
>> You want to watch the full movie "America Freedom to Fascism Authorized
>> version."
>>
>> Then ask yourself why the so-called heroes in the military are really in
> the
>> middle East and finally, when the domestic enemies and traitors
> controlling
>> your state try to force you to take the recently mandated "Real ID" by
>> May
>> of 2008 the liars are claiming is "only a driver's license" ask some--
>> real -- Christians about the "Mark of the Beast" noting in these dark and
>> evil times a "real" Christian is very hard to find but to the extent
>> possible to believe it you are reading comments from a real Christian.
>>
>> The phoney christians and other satanists deny this but the Real ID is
> beta
>> for the next phase of the mark of the beast; the jews and those serving
> them
>> are mandating everybody have a "mark" or a form of "identification" or
>> the
>> person(s) will not be allowed to buy or sell. According to those who have
>> studied the details about the Real ID ex[plain the details the domestic
>> enemies don't talk about on TV include mandates that the Real ID must be
>> used or you won't be able to have a job with an employer, or be allowed
>> to
>> buy or sell without the ID as well as other tyrannical mandates created
> and
>> controlled by the jew banks and those who server them otherwise known as
> the
>> "new world order."
>>
>> They do have a plan and do intend to force everybody to be chipped and
> then
>> you can tell us all what you think about asking the government to "help"
> if
>> you are allowed to even use the Internet that is... because yes, security
> is
>> a challenging problem but no, turning to an evil and corrupt government
>> controlled by satanist jews is not the solution when evil men and women
> hold
>> the keys.
>>
>> So wake up sheeple -- please -- the domestic enemies are likely going to
> do
>> another inside job like 9-11 -- blame the Iranians this time -- and scare
>> fools and sheeple into begging the government to save them.
>>
>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>> MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h
>>
>>
>> "Lee" <lee_nospam_@artjunky.com> wrote in message
>> news:er4jau$srf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> > Should "Designers" really be in charge of the refined tasks of
> developing
>> > an e-commerce site or handling sensitive personal information?
>> >
>> > To be honest, I think Governments should step in and form a "Fort Knox"
>> > for Internet data.
>> >
>> > Here in the U.S., we have a system for securing the production of
>> > money,
>> > we also have a place called Fort Knox that is a highly secured "bank"
> that
>> > we, as Americans can count on to keep our gold reserves safe.
>> >
>> > Why do we think, just because it's "data" that we don't have to be just
> as
>> > concerned about it being taken as truckload of gold bars?
>> >
>> > I think we need the same sort of thing for E-commerce transactions.
>> >
>> > There are just too many hackers and too many people with limited
> database
>> > skills handling very sensitive information and I think it's time to
>> > formalize the systems that secure data.
>> >
>> > What do you think?
>>
>>
>
>

It is overwhelming -- initially -- because the truth really is stranger than
fiction.

<%= Clinton


"darrel" <notreal@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:er57al$n6i$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> Have an epiphany and learn the truth about what the founders called
>> "domestic enemies" and how the domestic enemies (democrats and
>> republicans ) violated the U.S. Constitution and have given control of
>> our nation's monetary system to Zionist jew bankers who were given
>> complete control of the nation's monetary system in 1913 when the phoney
>> jew banks they call the "Federal Reserve" were formed. That's when and
>> how the jews got control of everything that matters.
>
> I was going to write a response but your entire post just short circuited
> my brain for a while. Wow. Good thing it's Friday!
>
> -Darrel
>

Arise, troll and be slain .....


"clintonG" <csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:er4sev$a4u$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> What do I think?
> I think when you have an RFID chip stuck up your @ss so you can use the
> web to buy or sell buy t-shirts you will not want to remember what you
> asked for.
>
> Meanwhile, if you really want to use an analogy like Fort Knox you should
> at least be responsible and learn that there is no more gold in Fort Knox.
> The last remnants of the Fort Know gold was in the basement of the World
> Trade Center towers they blew up on 9-011-2001. You see, Fort Knox was
> proven to be no more secure than the traitors that were allowed to control
> it. You see, its not the lock on the door dude but those controlling the
> key. That's why philosophically the government is not the solution.
> Furthermore, don't you remember how the pif Mayor of New York Goonliani
> had the first responders put at gun point and taken off the pile while
> they removed the gold or were you asleep that day too?
>
> So do something for your country. WAKE UP! Do something that will help you
> and your family and friends. WAKE UP!
>
> Have an epiphany and learn the truth about what the founders called
> "domestic enemies" and how the domestic enemies (democrats and
> republicans ) violated the U.S. Constitution and have given control of our
> nation's monetary system to Zionist jew bankers who were given complete
> control of the nation's monetary system in 1913 when the phoney jew banks
> they call the "Federal Reserve" were formed. That's when and how the jews
> got control of everything that matters.
>
> Go to video.google.com and watch a movie made by a whistle blower named
> Arron Russo (allegedly a well known hollywood jew actually working as an
> "independent producer"). Mr. Russo's movie is called "From Freedom to
> Fascism" which was made to help people learn the truth that democrats and
> republicans are traitors and have been serving Zionist jews for many
> years. You want to watch the full movie "America Freedom to Fascism
> Authorized version."
>
> Then ask yourself why the so-called heroes in the military are really in
> the middle East and finally, when the domestic enemies and traitors
> controlling your state try to force you to take the recently mandated
> "Real ID" by May of 2008 the liars are claiming is "only a driver's
> license" ask some-- real -- Christians about the "Mark of the Beast"
> noting in these dark and evil times a "real" Christian is very hard to
> find but to the extent possible to believe it you are reading comments
> from a real Christian.
>
> The phoney christians and other satanists deny this but the Real ID is
> beta for the next phase of the mark of the beast; the jews and those
> serving them are mandating everybody have a "mark" or a form of
> "identification" or the person(s) will not be allowed to buy or sell.
> According to those who have studied the details about the Real ID ex[plain
> the details the domestic enemies don't talk about on TV include mandates
> that the Real ID must be used or you won't be able to have a job with an
> employer, or be allowed to buy or sell without the ID as well as other
> tyrannical mandates created and controlled by the jew banks and those who
> server them otherwise known as the "new world order."
>
> They do have a plan and do intend to force everybody to be chipped and
> then you can tell us all what you think about asking the government to
> "help" if you are allowed to even use the Internet that is... because yes,
> security is a challenging problem but no, turning to an evil and corrupt
> government controlled by satanist jews is not the solution when evil men
> and women hold the keys.
>
> So wake up sheeple -- please -- the domestic enemies are likely going to
> do another inside job like 9-11 -- blame the Iranians this time -- and
> scare fools and sheeple into begging the government to save them.
>
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
> MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h
>
>
> "Lee" <lee_nospam_@artjunky.com> wrote in message
> news:er4jau$srf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> Should "Designers" really be in charge of the refined tasks of developing
>> an e-commerce site or handling sensitive personal information?
>>
>> To be honest, I think Governments should step in and form a "Fort Knox"
>> for Internet data.
>>
>> Here in the U.S., we have a system for securing the production of money,
>> we also have a place called Fort Knox that is a highly secured "bank"
>> that we, as Americans can count on to keep our gold reserves safe.
>>
>> Why do we think, just because it's "data" that we don't have to be just
>> as concerned about it being taken as truckload of gold bars?
>>
>> I think we need the same sort of thing for E-commerce transactions.
>>
>> There are just too many hackers and too many people with limited database
>> skills handling very sensitive information and I think it's time to
>> formalize the systems that secure data.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
>

Like wow dude, that's really deep.........

I'm sure glad you're not a wacko, or really upset with anybody, otherwise
someone might lock you up before you hurt people...Sounds like Germany in
the early 30's, by the way is brown your favorite color?...This is a great
forum, you can learn a lot more that just how to create web pages with all
the socio-intellectual PhDs in residence here.......... 8^)

_|_|
_|_| Dave in Orlando
_|_|


clintonG wrote:
| What do I think?
| I think when you have an RFID chip stuck up your @ss so you can use
| the web to buy or sell buy t-shirts you will not want to remember
| what you asked for.
|
| Meanwhile, if you really want to use an analogy like Fort Knox you
| should at least be responsible and learn that there is no more gold
| in Fort Knox. The last remnants of the Fort Know gold was in the
| basement of the World Trade Center towers they blew up on 9-011-2001.
| You see, Fort Knox was proven to be no more secure than the traitors
| that were allowed to control it. You see, its not the lock on the
| door dude but those controlling the key. That's why philosophically
| the government is not the solution. Furthermore, don't you remember
| how the pif Mayor of New York Goonliani had the first responders put
| at gun point and taken off the pile while they removed the gold or
| were you asleep that day too?
|
| So do something for your country. WAKE UP! Do something that will
| help you and your family and friends. WAKE UP!
---

wow, Henry Ford all over again.

"clintonG" <csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:er4sev$a4u$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> What do I think?
> I think when you have an RFID chip stuck up your @ss so you can use the
web
> to buy or sell buy t-shirts you will not want to remember what you asked
> for.
>
> Meanwhile, if you really want to use an analogy like Fort Knox you should
at
> least be responsible and learn that there is no more gold in Fort Knox.
The
> last remnants of the Fort Know gold was in the basement of the World Trade
> Center towers they blew up on 9-011-2001. You see, Fort Knox was proven to
> be no more secure than the traitors that were allowed to control it. You
> see, its not the lock on the door dude but those controlling the key.
That's
> why philosophically the government is not the solution. Furthermore, don't
> you remember how the pif Mayor of New York Goonliani had the first
> responders put at gun point and taken off the pile while they removed the
> gold or were you asleep that day too?
>
> So do something for your country. WAKE UP! Do something that will help you
> and your family and friends. WAKE UP!
>
> Have an epiphany and learn the truth about what the founders called
> "domestic enemies" and how the domestic enemies (democrats and
republicans )
> violated the U.S. Constitution and have given control of our nation's
> monetary system to Zionist jew bankers who were given complete control of
> the nation's monetary system in 1913 when the phoney jew banks they call
the
> "Federal Reserve" were formed. That's when and how the jews got control of
> everything that matters.
>
> Go to video.google.com and watch a movie made by a whistle blower named
> Arron Russo (allegedly a well known hollywood jew actually working as an
> "independent producer"). Mr. Russo's movie is called "From Freedom to
> Fascism" which was made to help people learn the truth that democrats and
> republicans are traitors and have been serving Zionist jews for many
years.
> You want to watch the full movie "America Freedom to Fascism Authorized
> version."
>
> Then ask yourself why the so-called heroes in the military are really in
the
> middle East and finally, when the domestic enemies and traitors
controlling
> your state try to force you to take the recently mandated "Real ID" by May
> of 2008 the liars are claiming is "only a driver's license" ask some--
> real -- Christians about the "Mark of the Beast" noting in these dark and
> evil times a "real" Christian is very hard to find but to the extent
> possible to believe it you are reading comments from a real Christian.
>
> The phoney christians and other satanists deny this but the Real ID is
beta
> for the next phase of the mark of the beast; the jews and those serving
them
> are mandating everybody have a "mark" or a form of "identification" or the
> person(s) will not be allowed to buy or sell. According to those who have
> studied the details about the Real ID ex[plain the details the domestic
> enemies don't talk about on TV include mandates that the Real ID must be
> used or you won't be able to have a job with an employer, or be allowed to
> buy or sell without the ID as well as other tyrannical mandates created
and
> controlled by the jew banks and those who server them otherwise known as
the
> "new world order."
>
> They do have a plan and do intend to force everybody to be chipped and
then
> you can tell us all what you think about asking the government to "help"
if
> you are allowed to even use the Internet that is... because yes, security
is
> a challenging problem but no, turning to an evil and corrupt government
> controlled by satanist jews is not the solution when evil men and women
hold
> the keys.
>
> So wake up sheeple -- please -- the domestic enemies are likely going to
do
> another inside job like 9-11 -- blame the Iranians this time -- and scare
> fools and sheeple into begging the government to save them.
>
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
> MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h
>
>
> "Lee" <lee_nospam_@artjunky.com> wrote in message
> news:er4jau$srf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> > Should "Designers" really be in charge of the refined tasks of
developing
> > an e-commerce site or handling sensitive personal information?
> >
> > To be honest, I think Governments should step in and form a "Fort Knox"
> > for Internet data.
> >
> > Here in the U.S., we have a system for securing the production of money,
> > we also have a place called Fort Knox that is a highly secured "bank"
that
> > we, as Americans can count on to keep our gold reserves safe.
> >
> > Why do we think, just because it's "data" that we don't have to be just
as
> > concerned about it being taken as truckload of gold bars?
> >
> > I think we need the same sort of thing for E-commerce transactions.
> >
> > There are just too many hackers and too many people with limited
database
> > skills handling very sensitive information and I think it's time to
> > formalize the systems that secure data.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
>

> Have an epiphany and learn the truth about what the founders called
> "domestic enemies" and how the domestic enemies (democrats and
> republicans ) violated the U.S. Constitution and have given control of our
> nation's monetary system to Zionist jew bankers who were given complete
> control of the nation's monetary system in 1913 when the phoney jew banks
> they call the "Federal Reserve" were formed. That's when and how the jews
> got control of everything that matters.

I was going to write a response but your entire post just short circuited my
brain for a while. Wow. Good thing it's Friday!

-Darrel

> Should "Designers" really be in charge of the refined tasks of developing
> an e-commerce site or handling sensitive personal information?

Software and security designers should, indeed.

> Why do we think, just because it's "data" that we don't have to be just as
> concerned about it being taken as truckload of gold bars?

Most people are.

> I think we need the same sort of thing for E-commerce transactions.

We have it.

> There are just too many hackers and too many people with limited database
> skills handling very sensitive information and I think it's time to
> formalize the systems that secure data.

We have standardized best practices and methodologies.

-Darrel