I have been using Dreamweaver since 8 came out and before
that I was an Adobe GoLive user for the little bit of web site work
I had with my print design business. When print design slowed down,
I started concentrating heavily on front-end web design but in the
last two years I have studying web dev with back-end apps.
My first experience with back-end applications is Ruby on Rails (great tutorial on Lynda.com). I figured I could use it with Dreamweaver, and I was amazed to see that all of the links to the plug-ins that had been created by third parties, for what they termed RubyWeaver - have disappeared across the web. No kidding! - they are gone! And apparently the only plug-ins that existed were for DW MX.
So, any advice for me? I am starting out and I can't afford ColdFusion or Flex Builder. I was under the impression that RoR would be better than PHP - which are my only two options on a mac .
I've also noticed all the Flex 2 and RoR articles in
the Flex support forum, so why not Dreamweaver? Are there any plans
to develop RonR plug-ins or should I just stop using Dreamweaver
entirely and commit to TextMate or Aptana?
My first experience with back-end applications is Ruby on Rails (great tutorial on Lynda.com). I figured I could use it with Dreamweaver, and I was amazed to see that all of the links to the plug-ins that had been created by third parties, for what they termed RubyWeaver - have disappeared across the web. No kidding! - they are gone! And apparently the only plug-ins that existed were for DW MX.
So, any advice for me? I am starting out and I can't afford ColdFusion or Flex Builder. I was under the impression that RoR would be better than PHP - which are my only two options on a mac .
I've also noticed all the Flex 2 and RoR articles in
the Flex support forum, so why not Dreamweaver? Are there any plans
to develop RonR plug-ins or should I just stop using Dreamweaver
entirely and commit to TextMate or Aptana?
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Joe - Thanks for your feedback!
I suppose I could buy VPC 7, install IIS and run ASP and ASP.NET so that I have a localhost/web server available on my Mac. Would I need Dreamweaver 8 (PC version) to communicate with that? Or can I run Dreamweaver on the Mac OS and communicate with my ASP and IIS database?
...or should I just suck-it-up and use TextMate -
which is more like the plain text that you mentioned? It doesn't
automatically update Fireworks but then again DW displays CSS very
badly so maybe its time to change anyway.
Cold Fusion is way too expensive for now and it will probably take me more than 30 days to learn it before I get a client and can afford to buy it. But I know CF is the way to go eventually. Do you have host company that you can recommend for future reference?
Well, Thanks again... If you want to answer the above questions, please do so... otherwise I am off to Lynda.com to learn PHP.
I suppose I could buy VPC 7, install IIS and run ASP and ASP.NET so that I have a localhost/web server available on my Mac. Would I need Dreamweaver 8 (PC version) to communicate with that? Or can I run Dreamweaver on the Mac OS and communicate with my ASP and IIS database?
...or should I just suck-it-up and use TextMate -
which is more like the plain text that you mentioned? It doesn't
automatically update Fireworks but then again DW displays CSS very
badly so maybe its time to change anyway.
Cold Fusion is way too expensive for now and it will probably take me more than 30 days to learn it before I get a client and can afford to buy it. But I know CF is the way to go eventually. Do you have host company that you can recommend for future reference?
Well, Thanks again... If you want to answer the above questions, please do so... otherwise I am off to Lynda.com to learn PHP.
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On 31 Jan 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver.appdev, TKC wrote:
> I suppose I could buy VPC 7, install IIS and run ASP and ASP.NET so
> that I have a localhost/web server available on my Mac. Would I need
> Dreamweaver 8 (PC version) to communicate with that? Or can I run
> Dreamweaver on the Mac OS and communicate with my ASP and IIS
> database?
If you already have hosting on an IIS server which supports ASP(.Net),
and an Access or SQL Server database, then yes, you can communicate
with it using DW/Mac. You wouldn't have a local testing server, but
I've personally never found that to be more than a minor drawback.
[Personally, I can't see why you Mac guys want to dual-boot. If I were
running Mac hardware (I've considered it...), I'd be running straight
OS X.]
> ...or should I just suck-it-up and use
> TextMate - which is more like the plain text that you mentioned?
Looking at TM's website - it's a high-end text editor which does code
highlighting and such? In that case, it'd be a fine choice as a
supplemental editor if you already have it.
But - other than images and assorted multimedia files, each and every
file you're going to run into in web development is a text file.
Dreamweaver is nothing more than a high-end fancy text editor which
understands a number of web technologies.
> It does automatically update Fireworks but then again it displays CSS
> very badly so maybe its time to change.
Huh?
> Cold Fusion is way too expensive for now and it will probably take
> me more than 30 days to learn it before I get a client and can
> afford to buy it. But I know CF is the way to go eventually. Do you
> have host company that you can recommend for future reference?
You don't need to buy it, the hosting provider does. You then rent
space on the hosting provider's server, which already has CF installed.
I don't use CF personally, but a number of hosting providers have it.
From what I understand, it's not all that much more expensive, if at
all, than hosting which doesn't include CF.
http://www.google.com/search?q=coldfusion+hosting
If you want a local copy of CF, Adobe has a free developer edition, the
only restriction on which is, I believe, that only one IP at a time can
connect to it. Again, as far as I know, it runs on Mac; I know it runs
on Windows and Linux:
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/trial/
> Well, Thanks again... If you want to answer the above questions,
> please do so... otherwise I am off to Lynda.com to learn PHP.
The center of all things PHP is http://www.php.net/ They have a
(minuscule) tutorial there; the user-contributed notes on most pages
there are invaluable.
--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.net/
Email: http://makowiec.net/email.php
> I suppose I could buy VPC 7, install IIS and run ASP and ASP.NET so
> that I have a localhost/web server available on my Mac. Would I need
> Dreamweaver 8 (PC version) to communicate with that? Or can I run
> Dreamweaver on the Mac OS and communicate with my ASP and IIS
> database?
If you already have hosting on an IIS server which supports ASP(.Net),
and an Access or SQL Server database, then yes, you can communicate
with it using DW/Mac. You wouldn't have a local testing server, but
I've personally never found that to be more than a minor drawback.
[Personally, I can't see why you Mac guys want to dual-boot. If I were
running Mac hardware (I've considered it...), I'd be running straight
OS X.]
>
...or should I just suck-it-up and use
> TextMate - which is more like the plain text that you mentioned?
Looking at TM's website - it's a high-end text editor which does code
highlighting and such? In that case, it'd be a fine choice as a
supplemental editor if you already have it.
But - other than images and assorted multimedia files, each and every
file you're going to run into in web development is a text file.
Dreamweaver is nothing more than a high-end fancy text editor which
understands a number of web technologies.
> It does automatically update Fireworks but then again it displays CSS
> very badly so maybe its time to change.
Huh?
> Cold Fusion is way too expensive for now and it will probably take
> me more than 30 days to learn it before I get a client and can
> afford to buy it. But I know CF is the way to go eventually. Do you
> have host company that you can recommend for future reference?
You don't need to buy it, the hosting provider does. You then rent
space on the hosting provider's server, which already has CF installed.
I don't use CF personally, but a number of hosting providers have it.
From what I understand, it's not all that much more expensive, if at
all, than hosting which doesn't include CF.
http://www.google.com/search?q=coldfusion+hosting
If you want a local copy of CF, Adobe has a free developer edition, the
only restriction on which is, I believe, that only one IP at a time can
connect to it. Again, as far as I know, it runs on Mac; I know it runs
on Windows and Linux:
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/trial/
> Well, Thanks again... If you want to answer the above questions,
> please do so... otherwise I am off to Lynda.com to learn PHP.
The center of all things PHP is http://www.php.net/ They have a
(minuscule) tutorial there; the user-contributed notes on most pages
there are invaluable.
--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.net/
Email: http://makowiec.net/email.php
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