global settings manager

[RGV1939]

When I go to the global settings page

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html

I am not able to switch from tab to tab on the global settings manager by clicking on the tab. I was able to do that before the last flash player version. Is this a bug? How do I fix it?

[Guest]

Hi,  When you are at the site using the link you posted, which Panel are you having trouble with?

Thanks,

eidnolb

[RGV1939]

On the left side of that page under global settings manager, when I click the first item "global privacy settings panel."

It then opens up a set of tabs in the space on the right hand side of that page.

I can click and change the setting for that tabthen when I try to click the other tabs, it does not change me to another setting panel

(i.e. if I click on the tab for website privacy setting, it does not open up that panel)

I use to be able to click the tabs there  to go to the other settings.

it seems this started happening when I installed 10.3.181.23.

Prior to that I was able to open the various setting panels by clicking the tabs

Now I can access the other setting panels by clicking the items on the left side of the page under global settings manager, just not by clicking the tabs

[RGV1939]

I'm sure my flash player active x is installed correctly. When I go to the check flash player page it

shouws mine is installed and working

[Guest]

Hi, You are correct. On my Desktop, I haven't updated yet to the latest and the Tabs work. But my laptop that has been updated, I cannot use the Tabs either.

I wonder why that happens. I don't recall using the Tabs with the 10.3.181.14 so can't say about that version.

If it happened with the .14, then this may have something to do with the Flash Player Settings Manager via Control Panel. The FP logo there. I'm having a problem with it. Under the Local Storage I have it set to "Always ask". But checking the Setting at various times, it has been changed to "Allow sites......

I don't know what is causing it to change on it's own yet.

I'll see what I can find out and let you know.

Thanks,

eidnolb

[RGV1939]

what do you mean by

"Flash Player Settings Manager via Control Panel"

where would I find that?

[Guest]

Open Control Panel and you should see the Red Flash Player logo. That is the Flash Player Settings Manager. You can perform some Settings there.

eidnolb

[RGV1939]

open what control panel?

I just have the flash player active X thing. Where do I find the control panel?

[Guest]

Click on Start, Control Panel should be in your Start Menu. Mine is with XP/IE8.

Thanks,

eidnolb

[RGV1939]

Do you mean windows control panel?

I am able to open the windows control panel where there are items like Java or Add/remove programs, but there is nothing that says flash player

[Guest]

Hi, I was trying to find on the other threads if you had posted your computer operating system, but didn't see it. I think you are using IE7, but not sure.

Let me know that so I have some idea where you should look for the info.

Thanks,

eidnolb

[RGV1939]

yes

Vista Home Premium 32 BIT with Vista SP2

IE7

[Guest]

Ok, thanks. Even with Vista you would click on Start and then Control Panel. Once you find Control Panel switch to Classic

View.

Can you see the Flash logo now?

eidnolb

[RGV1939]

yes, I can see the flash player control panel now.

So are we to use that instead of the online global settings manager?

I will post this as a seperate question

[Guest]

Hi, bringing info from thread:  http://forums.adobe.com/thread/863743?tstart=0    RGV1939

So with the new flash player, how do we control the settings?

Do we use the online settings at the macromedia website? Or do we use the flash player control panel?

Or do we use both?

And when was adobe going to tell us that there was a flash player control setting no located on the computers control location?

meant NOW located on our computers

eidnolb

[Guest]

Ok, this will work better by having all of your info in one place.

In my opinion this change that came with Flash Player 10.3.181.14 that resulted in the Flash Player Settings Manager in the Control Panel is confusing. Maybe not to anyone else, but it is to me. The fact that the IE8, IE9 and FF 4 have chosen to combine cookies and Flash LSOs. Earlier versions of these browsers don't support this new functionality. Other browsers may support this functionality in future versions. And this in my opinion is what is causing the confusion.

In order to understand what has happened one needs to know that in IE6(which I have on my XP) you were able to delete cookies(browser cookies), offline files and temporary internet files from the Internet Options. Also you could clear History there too. The LSO cookies you had to remove manually. IE7 may be the same, I can't say since I use IE6 and IE8 on another PC. This is still the same until one updates Flash Player to 10.3.181.14. (Which I have not done on the XP/IE6 yet)

Now with IE8, IE9 and FF 4 : If you clear your history and you tell the browser to clear cookies as well, Flash LSOs will be cleared. If you clear your history but you don't select cookies, Flash LSOs will remain on the machine.

So a user is left with several choices. 1. Clear History but not Cookies then you keep the Flash LSO's. 2. Clear Cookies when clearing History then browser Cookies and the LSO Cookies will be removed also. This is no problem for users that want to Clear ALL Cookies and History. The problem is that many users want to KEEP the LSO's for various reasons, one among them is that the gamers lose their scores etc. If you go to the Flash Player Settings Manager via Control Panel under Storage you'll see what is kept.

So that is part of it. Now the other part is that this site when paging down gives a condensed explanation for the various Settings Panels:  http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html#117096

Take a look and have your Settings for the various Panels as you want. Then use the Flash Player Settings Manager to set those that are selectable there.

For me, this is a work in progress. I have no problem with IE6. However with IE8, things are not quite working as they are supposed to, so I'm still experimenting. Between the Settings in the Global Panels, the Flash Player Settings Manager and the IE8 browser, there appears to be conflicts and I haven't sorted that out yet.

Thanks,

eidnolb

[RGV1939]

So in my case, I use IE7

So do I just select what settings aI can in the Flash player Control Panel and then do the same with the on line Flash Plyer settings at the macromedia

website?

Then how do I delete the data that flash store? Just clear the sites from both the flash player control and the macromedia settings website?

BTW thanks for helping me

[RGV1939]

this is also what makes it confusing:

Who uses this Settings Manager?

Beginning with Flash Player 10.3, the Local Settings Manager supersedes this Online Settings Manager for managing global settings on Windows, Mac, and Linux computers. The Local Settings Manager can be accessed in the Control Panel on Windows and in System Preferences on Mac. Users of other operating systems and earlier versions of Flash Player can continue to use the Online Settings Manager described here

But nowhere there does it specfy browser version

[Guest]

Since the Flash Player Settings Manager in the Control Panel supersedes the online Settings, then I would set those how you want them. I would also check the online and make sure they are the same.

Then using IE7 go to Tools, Internet Options. How do you delete Cookies/offline files/browser Cookies and History from there?

I know how it's done with IE8 and IE6, but can't tell you about how IE7 is done since I don't have another machine:-)

The info about the various browsers that have implemented this came from a member of the Flash Player Team. I pulled out the parts needed for you instead of having you read several threads that this info came from. I didn't think you'd want to read several long threads, but if you do, I'll post them.

Thanks,

eidnolb

[RGV1939]

First again thanks so much for helping me with this

this quote here, I copied from the macromedia online storage web page

Who uses this Settings Manager?

Beginning with Flash Player 10.3, the Local Settings Manager supersedes this Online Settings Manager for managing global settings on Windows, Mac, and Linux computers. The Local Settings Manager can be accessed in the Control Panel on Windows and in System Preferences on Mac. Users of other operating systems and earlier versions of Flash Player can continue to use the Online Settings Manager described here

and as I said nowhere there do they indicate the browser version. I just think that ADOBE could have done a little better job cluing us in on this

[Guest]

Yes, I've read that also. The purpose of being able to remove the LSO's was needed since privacy is involved with those kind of Cookies. I don't have any problem with Adobe implementing that. The problem I think is that Microsoft and Firefox could have allowed the removing of those separately instead of combining them when removing browser cookies and history. Of course, I'm speaking as a User. The Developers and Software Engineers most likely look at it differently and I don't pretend to know more than they do  The purpose of Adobe doing this is great and was needed but I think Microsoft & Firefox complicated it since implementing it is confusing. As a User, I think there could have been a better way.

I haven't had time to visit their Forums, but I would imagine users are posting about this also. I'm sure you and I aren't the only ones

However, I do agree that information and instruction could have been provided. Like some other changes, they are not always as easy as it sounds. When one puts changes into practice, then it is different and that's what I have found.

Hopefully a clarification will be forthcoming. If I'm not understanding the procedures or not doing something correctly to achieve what I want, then I would appreciate additional information on how to do that.

Until then, that is all of the information that I have, not only for you but myself

Hope that helps to understand some of it anyway for you and anyone else that reads your thread!

Thanks,

eidnolb

[RGV1939]

Let me ask this if you don't mind-

In the Flash Control settings I have on my machine I have the "store data on your machine" set as always ask me.

If I don't allow data stored, will that cause a major problem or just cause things to run a little more slowly?

[Guest]

Hi, Under the Storage Tab you have 3 choices. The Ask me is ok and you can decide whether to allow or deny. It won't effect your computer at all. Some websites if you deny them, then the site won't play or be able to be used. You'll most likely be asked a lot.

I was having a problem with deleting Cookies, so I just blocked all sites. However, that's just me. I figure if a website that I really, really, really want to use, I can change it:-) I haven't found too many of those tho. Why does any website need to know how I use Flash Player, etc?

This is a choice that each User would make. I also don't allow third party access either. I also read a websites Privacy Statements and if they are going to "give away the farm" I don't need it. I was going to register on a website a couple of days ago and besides my name, street address, email, telephone number and credit card info, their "Privacy Statement" allowed them to give that same information to their Sponsors. LOL, I don't think so, their Sponsor pays them, but they don't pay me and have no right to my private information. So that took care of that.

Websites get the idea that because they don't knock on your door and ask to see your private info, then it's ok since it's the "internet".

I don't mean to get on my soap box, but that's how I look at it. So I'm careful on what I allow and think others should too.

Oh, don't forget to mark your thread as answered, since I know others will look for your thread, since you have a good subject line

Thanks,

eidnolb

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[RGV1939]

OK, So I notice that if I set the flash player native control panel to "always ask" before storing data on my computer, then when I go to the online global settings web page, under Website Storage Settings panel, it will show that I have the amount of storage allowed to be "0" (zero)

Then if on the Website Storage Settings panel I change the amount allowed to only be 10kb, then when I go to the native flash oplayer control panel it changes my setting from always ask, to always allow.

Not sure I understand why?

Also would "always ask " be a sfer setting than "always allow"?

[Matt Talistu]

The Native Control Panel and the Online Settings Manager operate on the same settings data on your computer, it is just two different ways to access and view the data. If you make a change in the Native Control Panel, there is no need to go to the Online Settings Manager and make the identical change.

In the Native Control Panel, setting the permission to "Always Ask" will set the storage to limit to 0KB, as you discovered. If a website wants to store more than that limit (i.e. any data at all, since the limit is 0KB) then you will see a prompt asking you whether you want to allow that website to store up to XXKB.

If you set the limit to 10KB via the Online Settings Manager, the Native Control Panel changes to "Always Allow" since you have explicitly allowed a certain amount of storage now. As long as the website uses less than 10KB, you won't be asked anything. If a website wants to use more than 10KB of storage, you will still see a prompt asking you if that's ok.