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_keyframer
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September 10, 2015
Question

Still think Flash is dead or very much alive?

I have loved Flash for decades. I still use it but I get asked if the application is really dead. I use Flash almost everyday for everything from designing, doodling, quick little animations or full featured client animation to video. With support for HTML5 and WebGL it's apparent that Adobe wants Flash to continue and adpat to the ever changing technology landscape.

Is has the general public been duped into thinking Flash (the authoring tool) is dead because the browser player (by the same name) is no longer supported? What do you guys think?

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7 commentaires

Inspiring
November 15, 2015
Carm01
Legend
November 14, 2015

It sad that you all are so blind that not one mention of the first 5 months of 2015 there were 62 security Vulnerabilities discovered in Flash how many of those are patched?

It seems like this is just some PR and adobe fanboy garbage to sidestep the issue that flash is a huge security risk. All you Adobe fanboys just do a google search on the security risk of flash

The only reason Adobe will not put a kill date on flash is because they are still making huge profits for flash period. Flash ir 2 decades old. Adobe has a mentality of a brick when it comes to this. A multi billion dollar company that only sees profit and could care less about the security risk their product poses period.

Adobe = mentality of a brick when it comes to flash!

open your eyes looks like 215 year to date: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-53/product_id-6761/Adobe-Flash-Player.html

Regards

Participating Frequently
September 14, 2015

In our company we use Flash player for our key financial product, which serves tens of thousands customers internationally on a "paid basis". Maintenance involves minimum effort, everything just works as we wrote it years ago and we can still fluently improve it with new features of Flash player. We have also some feature-limited HTML alternative (paralel development), which targets mobile browsers, but it is less homogenous and sometimes less performant. Our iOS and Android AIR apps share codebase with the Flash application. If this continues to work, we aren't going anywhere.

_keyframer
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 14, 2015

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me. On the outside looking in, it seems the player is barely breathing. But I see now many still rely on it quite a bit. Good to hear.

Animator and content creator for Animate CC
Joseph Labrecque
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 14, 2015

I think it really does all depend upon perspective!

Participant
September 11, 2015

I would disagree that anything about it is dead, including the player.

I work primarily in games and have a webgame project: http://tetrageddon.com because of the limitations of HTML5 (which I will not get into) I chose Flash and they require the flashplayer to run, as many browser games do.

In all the time the project has existed, its games played by players & popular youtubers, and showcased at various events (GDC, E3), as well as being written about in a lot of notable publications, not one person has batted an eye that it's Flash (some even thought this impressive) or that it requires the player.

This is not a "small" project by far. It's received a lot of recognition and won awards. It's coming to Steam (as a result of being a finalist/winer at IGF)... This is a Flash project. It would NOT have been possible without the platform or the player.

In my opinion, and where I'm coming from, Adobe would make a hugely detrimental mistake by discontinuing the player. From my understanding this year's "dead" debate was for banner ads.

It is unfortunate that poor journalism has drug the platform through the mud like this. It's a great game development tool (among many things), and I find the player a huge plus. If it weren't for the flash player I would have switched production to something else (like Unity).

I also find the conversation ridiculous. From all the plugins out there, and all the media formats that exist on the internet, and considering that even Java applets have a place on the internet, the flash player is the only thing that "should die". If something where really dead it wouldn't require this much press to convince people of it.

Joseph Labrecque
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 10, 2015

I think the absolute biggest problem is that "Flash" means specific things to different people. For instance- some people think "Flash" is video... some ads... some games... no one seems to ever see the big picture and that is where the "tech journalists" fail most of all.

Jeff__Ward
Inspiring
September 10, 2015

> because the browser player (by the same name) is no longer supported

Did I miss an announcement, or is this false?

_keyframer
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 10, 2015

Well, chrome just announced last week it no longer supports it. Facebook's video player doesn't support Flash. The web and mobile world has been shunning the Flash player for a while now. The player is, for all intents and purposes, on life support and has been for a while.

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Animator and content creator for Animate CC
Joseph Labrecque
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 10, 2015

This is only ads. Primary content written for Flash Player will still run just fine.

September 10, 2015

Absolutely - there's a significant issue with having a development tool with the same name of as a deprecated standard.

I've disabled all Flash plug-ins across all my computers, and I've never bothered to install the Flash Creative Cloud software on my computer because it is "Flash" which is deprecated.

I was unaware Flash (the software application) supported HTML5 and WebGL. Now I'll actually have to look into it. May be a good time for Adobe to rename it to something like Adobe Animation Studio or something to detach it from the Flash name since it doesn't "require" the animation to be a Flash animation. I've been dabbling with Adobe Edge Animate CC whenever I wanted to do any web-based animation work (well, that and Google's Web Designer software).

_keyframer
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 10, 2015

Completely agree that Adobe should rebrand Flash.

Animator and content creator for Animate CC