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De-Conditionalizing a Document
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Note: I am running Framemaker 8.0p277 on Windows Vista.
I have a number of heavily conditionalized documents that I want to make unconditionalized.
I thought -- simple! This won't be hard at all. But unfortunately, I encountered an issue. My procedure:
1. Copy the text into a new document (same condition, para, and character tags).
2. Select all text.
3. Change the tags I no longer want from "As is" to "Not In." When it asks, I delete all text so that the only conditional text left is the text I want to keep.
4. Select all text and make it unconditional.
Voila! I thought! Except...
All text that was previously unconditional, or conditionalized with both the tag I want and another tag, is now red with a line through it, and is marked "FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED" (i.e. that shows up in the status bar at the bottom). And Track Text Edits is NOT enabled.
I can, at this point, get rid of this marking and make everything okay by going into the Text Tracking and choosing to Reject All. But it seems buggy to me. Why would working with conditional text trigger a text edit track? Am I missing something? Or is this just a bug I've discovered? (I did try to search on anything similar and found nothing.)
Thanks to anyone with an opinion! :)
I have a number of heavily conditionalized documents that I want to make unconditionalized.
I thought -- simple! This won't be hard at all. But unfortunately, I encountered an issue. My procedure:
1. Copy the text into a new document (same condition, para, and character tags).
2. Select all text.
3. Change the tags I no longer want from "As is" to "Not In." When it asks, I delete all text so that the only conditional text left is the text I want to keep.
4. Select all text and make it unconditional.
Voila! I thought! Except...
All text that was previously unconditional, or conditionalized with both the tag I want and another tag, is now red with a line through it, and is marked "FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED" (i.e. that shows up in the status bar at the bottom). And Track Text Edits is NOT enabled.
I can, at this point, get rid of this marking and make everything okay by going into the Text Tracking and choosing to Reject All. But it seems buggy to me. Why would working with conditional text trigger a text edit track? Am I missing something? Or is this just a bug I've discovered? (I did try to search on anything similar and found nothing.)
Thanks to anyone with an opinion! :)
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Because Track Changes uses conditional text markings to track additions and deletions. So there's some overlap. You should be able to see the addition and deletion tags in the Conditional Text window, unless that's changed....
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Try:
Select all text.
Press Ctrl+6.
- Michael
Select all text.
Press Ctrl+6.
- Michael
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OK, at which point? And what does this do? :)
Thanks to you both!
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But... why is this text marked to begin with?
All I did was make unconditional text... unconditional. I didn't do anything with tracking changes.
And I can't copy and paste that text until I Reject All Changes, which took me about an hour to figure out because Track Changes wasn't even turned on.
And no, there's no conditional tag showing up in the Conditional Text window, which is why it took me so long to figure this out. It says it's "conditionalized" but there isn't any tag in the window indicating what it's conditionalized as, or why it would be conditionalized, and I can't un-conditionalize it.
All I did was make unconditional text... unconditional. I didn't do anything with tracking changes.
And I can't copy and paste that text until I Reject All Changes, which took me about an hour to figure out because Track Changes wasn't even turned on.
And no, there's no conditional tag showing up in the Conditional Text window, which is why it took me so long to figure this out. It says it's "conditionalized" but there isn't any tag in the window indicating what it's conditionalized as, or why it would be conditionalized, and I can't un-conditionalize it.
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OK, I figured out that Control 6 does -- "Quick Conditional Text Unconditional." Unfortunately, that has the same result -- it tags my unconditional text with the tag "FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED". I then still have to Reject All to clear that tag.
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Frame 8p237, non-structured and lots of conditions. Windows XP
I am having a different problem. I am removing the condition, then deleting tags that have been discontinued - only to find they still live in the "hide" column when I am ready to set conditions.
How do I permanently delete these tags so that they NO LONGER appear in the list of tags (even in the "hide" column.? Also, why doesn't the search find conditions in tables?
Thanks VERY much in advance!
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Trish Edwards
Hach Company
Loveland, Colorado
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