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disconnected page VS page break

Enthusiast ,
Nov 12, 2023 Nov 12, 2023

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Hello,

I need to separate all pages of my document because I want to add one poem on each page. The advantage for me to separate pages is : if I want to modify the poem on page 1, the poem on page 2 does not move.

I have seen there are two ways to do it :

1) add several disconnected pages

2) add page break on each page

 

I have two questions :

1) What do you advise me to use in that case : disconnected pages/page break/ or other way ?

2)  how to change an existing normal page to become a disconnected page, and how to change an existing disconnected page to become a normal page ?

 

 

 

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Community Expert , Nov 12, 2023 Nov 12, 2023

Have the starting para of each poem have a Pagination property of Top of Page. Ditto for the next non-poem para … on normal connected pages. You may want to have two separate para tags for this, poem.top to start, and poem for body, or similar. Next Para property in the poem.top def would be [poem]. You may already have specific para tags for the poem pages, due to font, spacing, alignment, etc.

 

Page Break is not an independent document object in FM. It's merely a relatively fragile Pagination

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Nov 17, 2023 Nov 17, 2023

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If you want to use the FrameAbove approach, don't use the AMP approach. The two are alternatives, and not a combination.

 

If you want to use the AMP approach, don'tuse the FrameAbove:
1. Remove the FrameAbove from whatever paragraph format starts a poem.
2. Edit the Flow A text frame on Master Page "Poem" to start lower on the page.

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Enthusiast ,
Nov 18, 2023 Nov 18, 2023

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About the AMP method :

If I understand well, in Master page, I have to move the top margin (see red arrow) towards the bottom ? Is it correct ?

 

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Nov 18, 2023 Nov 18, 2023

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re: …in Master page [Poem], I have to move the top margin (see red arrow) towards the bottom ?

Correct. And you can do that with the graphics tool (⮝) either by clicking on the MP text frame top edge pull-down arrow, or clicking on the frame and using
Graphics ▼ Object Properties… Dimensions
for more precise control.

 

The whole idea is to employ the MP to control the page layout, so that no special attention is need in Body paragraph formats. By the way, once you get the AMP working, you no longer need separate poem_top and poem styles. Just use poem (courant?) in the mapping table.

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Enthusiast ,
Nov 18, 2023 Nov 18, 2023

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Hi Bob,

All is very clear now. And Thank you very much.

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Nov 18, 2023 Nov 18, 2023

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re: …you no longer need separate poem_top and poem styles

You might still need a 'top to ensure that a poem starts on a new page.

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Nov 18, 2023 Nov 18, 2023

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Ok.

In that case, I will use "poem top" for each poem (without frame above), so in reference page I will have :

poem top/Poem/Poem/Single

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