Framemaker to .pdf part of image missing

[bowen192]

Hello

I am using FM 10, Windows XP, Acrobat Pro X

I have converted a book and two images (from about 100) have the bottom 1/8th cut off.

The following may or may not be useful information:

The image is a .png.

The image has callouts drawn in in Framemaker which print fine.

I have replaced the drawing.

The drawing has been rotated 90 degrees.

The same problem occurs using FoxIt.

The same portion of the image is cut off if I move the image around.

Any ideas?

EDIT: I've reimported the image and pdf'd it again and it prints fine.  The problem occurs when I rotate the image 90 degrees counterclockwise.

Hmm

MORE EDIT: If I use the 'Rotate Counterclockwise' button, it crops a little bit each time it rotates.

Hmm.

Message was edited by: A confused Technical Author with a rapidly humour failing boss

[Bob_Niland · Accepted solution]

Does the same problem happen when you import the image as another graphics file format?

Re-save the image from Photoshop (or whatever image editor your use), and try EPS or TIFF (or even PDF). The ideal format to try would depend on the image content: raster, vector, tru-color, indexed color, gray, bitmap, etc.

My first thought was that you might have a stray solid white masking rectangle in the anchored frame (could be a text frame or graphics rect), but I presume you have tried creating an entirely new frame during testing.

Not that it's likely to  atter, but what's run-around set to on the PNG?

[bowen192]

Error7103 wrote:

Does the same problem happen when you import the image as another graphics file format?

Re-save the image from Photoshop (or whatever image editor your use), and try EPS or TIFF (or even PDF). The ideal format to try would depend on the image content: raster, vector, tru-color, indexed color, gray, bitmap, etc.

My first thought was that you might have a stray solid white masking rectangle in the anchored frame (could be a text frame or graphics rect), but I presume you have tried creating an entirely new frame during testing.

Not that it's likely to  atter, but what's run-around set to on the PNG?

Error7103, you always have a clarity of thought!

Changing the picture to an .eps worked a treat.

Cheers

[Bob_Niland]

Changing the picture to an .eps worked a treat.

It usually does. The question is: why? (does PNG blank)

And the FM R&D folks may want your help with that.

What are the images? What app created them. Any chance they contain alpha channel?

I don't use PNG, both because I'm not sure how well FM7 supports it, and because, to quote Wiki "PNG was designed for transferring images on the Internet, not for professional-quality print graphics,..." (due to lack of CMYK mainly). I'm also not sure how well Photoshop supports it, esp the profile chunks.

So we do darn near everything as EPS imports ... at this site. Another division does use PNG, and if they ever call with a blanking problem, I'd like to have a clue for them.

[bowen192]

Error7103 wrote:

Changing the picture to an .eps worked a treat.

It usually does. The question is: why? (does PNG blank)

And the FM R&D folks may want your help with that.

What are the images? What app created them. Any chance they contain alpha channel?

I don't use PNG, both because I'm not sure how well FM7 supports it, and because, to quote Wiki "PNG was designed for transferring images on the Internet, not for professional-quality print graphics,..." (due to lack of CMYK mainly). I'm also not sure how well Photoshop supports it, esp the profile chunks.

So we do darn near everything as EPS imports ... at this site. Another division does use PNG, and if they ever call with a blanking problem, I'd like to have a clue for them.

You put a lot of time in to this place, mate, Adobe should be paying you.  I know there are many on here who are grateful.

Our company designs lifting tools.  The design boys create them and I make a operation/test/assembly manual for them.

They create the design in Autodesk Inventor and I import that file in to Autodesk Inventor Publisher.  The file types I get to choose for saving images are;

png, jpeg, gif, bmp, tiff, emf, exif and wmf.

No eps unfortunately.  Would you recommend using another format?

I rarely mess with alpha channels unless I'm creating a master page or a brochure, and then I certainly won't be using FM.

[Bob_Niland]

You put a lot of time in to this place, mate, Adobe should be paying you.

I'm just returning the favor. I've picked up several crucial tips here this year. Plus, you really discover if you know something when you try to teach it.

Our company designs lifting tools.  The design boys create them and I make a operation/test/assembly manual for them.

So are you working with wireframe hidden lines removed, or 3D solid renderings?

If wireframe, you would ideally want the image to remain vector all the way into the PDF, if the vector count is reasonable.

... png, jpeg, gif, bmp, tiff, emf, exif and wmf.

I don't know EXIF (except as a metadata format). Of the remainder, only WMF has a prayer of delivering vector, and I'm not sure how well Frame supports that mode.

No eps unfortunately.  Would you recommend using another format?

Autodesk can surely export DWG or DXF, but they are hazardous to your color catalog. Can Autodesk export vector PDF?

You will need to experiment with stroke weights, depending on your print path and any expected PDF viewing size. I'd suggest starting with 0.2 points (as delivered in the final PDF).

I find Illustrator really useful here. It can open DWGs, DXFs, and the EPSIs our older CAD software emits, and easily set stroke weights for final scale. It can also "simplify" complex drawings to some extent. When the PDF of a vector image gets over 250KB, we take steps (usually flattening it to 600 dpi raster). But we like to publish vector when we can.