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Subscript characters not carrying forward into generated lists....

Community Beginner ,
Oct 23, 2023 Oct 23, 2023

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Hi folks,
Using Framemaker 17.0.2.431 (latest version), structured.
The subject publications contain numerous instances of subscript content, applied by wrapping in an element.  Problem is, none of this content is captured in my generated lists (TOC, LOF, LOT). It all presents as upper case vice subscript. Yes, I can apply subscript directly to the list items in Frame, but when I do *whoosh* goes most of the hyperlink(s). Presumably, I'll then have to post-process the PDF and 'extend' what's left of the affected links in Acrobat Pro.
Is there a more elegant way to do this? I've tried unwrapping and applying character tags in lieu, but this approach fails to fix the issue at the authoring level.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2023 Oct 24, 2023

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Hi @John SG ,

I am not able to visualize what your text/source looks like and what kind of formats you are using.

So best would be if you provide a sample of your text and your lists.

Then maybe a solution can be found.

 

Best regards

Stephan

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2023 Oct 24, 2023

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When you use an element to apply the subscript, does the EDD apply a Character Format to make the subscript, or just apply the subscript property?

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 25, 2023 Oct 25, 2023

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Just the property. The second image shows how it's displayed in the generated LOF.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2023 Oct 24, 2023

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I ran a quick test with a <sub> element that applies a Character Format and it gets preserved in the TOC.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2023 Oct 24, 2023

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As far as having to post-process the TOC to extend the links, make sure you watch this video and get my free script.

https://youtu.be/mWPs2jpEBjM

Automatically fix "broken" Hypertext links in your FrameMaker generated files.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 01, 2023 Nov 01, 2023

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Thanks Rick. Unfortunately, I'm not able to find your add-on at this URL: https://frameexpert.com/store/index.html

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Community Expert ,
Nov 01, 2023 Nov 01, 2023

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I am sorry about that. Try this link:

https://frameexpert.gumroad.com/

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

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Apologies for posting here Rick, but I can't find a contact link on your website.
Having gone through the "Checkout" process, how do I download the file?
It's got me going round in loops.....

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Community Expert ,
Nov 07, 2023 Nov 07, 2023

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Try rick at frameexpert dot com

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 08, 2023 Nov 08, 2023

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I think that's what I'm trying to do.....

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2023 Oct 24, 2023

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Are you doing the subscripts as:
a. native Unicode subscripts (₀ ₁ ₂ ₃ ₄ ₅ ₆ ₇ ₈ ₉ ₊ ₋ ₙ)
b. normal Latin characters with <Subscript> Character Format applied
c. normal Latin characters with Format ▼ Style » Subscript overrides?

There are generated file & Xref implications for each approach.

 

On the problem:
☐ characters not appearing at all in list?
☐ characters appearing, but not subscripted?

☐ characters appearing, but breaking hypertext of string?

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Community Expert ,
Oct 25, 2023 Oct 25, 2023

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With the screenshots now available, it appears that the problem is that the ‹high.subscript› Character Format does not exist in the generated .fm file. By getting in there, the VMCG should appear as intended in the generated file.

 

However, the automatic cross-reference for that string will break at MCG. This is long-standing FM behavior not easy for Adobe to re-cast at this point (having to do with how the end of a hypertext range is auto-determined when there's only an insertion point to work with).

 

And … doing the VMCG without needing a CharFmt is not an option, because Unicode's repertoire of natively subscripted glyphs does not include any capital Latin letters.

 

I've used various hacks to work around this in the past, none elegant, and some possibly not available in structured.

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