Godener Schnitt im Illustrator

Report · Jul 08, 2023

Hallo liebe Community,

ich hätte eine kleine Frage bezüglich Hilfslinien im Goldenen Schnitt. Im Photoshop kann man sich per Freistellungswerkzeug einfach und schnell den Goldenen Schnitt anzeigen lassen. Gibt es so eine Möglichkeit auch im Illustrator?

Liebe Grüße

Alex

Report · Jul 08, 2023

Alexander,

I wonder whether the answer is to use a square/rectangle as a Clipping Path (select both the square/rectangle and the artwork and then Ctrl/Cmd+7 (hold Ctrl/or Cmd and press 7)).

I presume the question has nothing to do with establishing/determining den Goldenen Schnitt.

And that it goes beyond just showing den Goldenen Schnitt which can be done with the square/rectangle having a stroke and no fill.

Report · Jul 08, 2023

Hallo Jacob,

vielen Dank für deine Nachricht. Es geht tatsächlich um die Etablierung des Goldenen Schnitts per Hilfslinien. Ich möchte z.B. ein Logo im Goldenen Schnitt gestalten. In Photoshop kann ich das einfach per Freistellungswerkzeug anzeigen lassen (siehe Bild). Meine Frage war ob es eine ähnliche Möglichkeit im Illustrator dafür gibt.

Report · Jul 08, 2023

Alexander,

To most easily obtain corresponding guide lines, which you can snap to using Smart Guides, you can copy the original square/rectangle in front of itself, then reduce (only) the width of the copy by adding *0.236 in the W box of the Transform panel and pressing Enter, then rotate a copy by 90 degrees.

This will give you two crossing rectangles where the pairs of long sides correspond to the Goldener Schnitt guide lines. 0.236 is the distance between two lines set at 0.618 from opposite sides (that is (0.618-0.500)*2).

Actually, I believe this corresponds to the inbuilt way the guide lines are made with the Crop Tool in PS (instead of only 2, it would take 4 rectangles to make with only a single long side from each.

Report · Jul 12, 2023

Ich habe mir gerade deine Antwort angeschaut, sollte man die Rechtecke nicht eigentlich dann /1,618 teilen statt mit *0,236 zu multiplizieren? Ich bin zwischenzeitlich auf eine andere Lösung gekommen. Ich habe mir ein Rechteck in der Größe der vorgegebenen Zeichenfläche gezogen und diese dann per Dreisatz auf eine Breite und Höhe von 38,2% gebracht. Dadurch konnte ich mir die Hilfslinien ebenfalls im Goldenen Schnitt setzen. Das hat ganz gut funktioniert. 🙂

Report · Jul 12, 2023

Alex,

Here is a more specific explanation added to the steps in the suggestion above in bold:

To most easily obtain corresponding guide lines, which you can snap to using Smart Guides, you can, while having the default centre Reference Point ticked in the Transform panel (the centre one of the 9 options):

1) Copy the original square/rectangle in front of itself, then reduce (only) the width of the copy by adding *0.236 in the W box of the Transform panel and pressing Enter; this will give you a narrow guide rectangle in the middle of the original square/rectangle; the distance from each of the long vertical sides to the opposite side of the original square/rectangle will correspond to the golden ratio (1/0.618 = 0.618);

2) Then rotate a copy of the narrow rectangle from 1) by 90 degrees; only the long sides of the two crossing rectangles will be visible and correspond to the two sets of Goldener Schnitt guide lines in PS.

So, as mentioned in the suggestion above, this will give you two crossing rectangles where the pairs of long sides correspond to the Goldener Schnitt guide lines. 0.236 is the distance between two lines set at 0.618 from opposite sides.

Curiously, your 38.2% using the Dreisatz corresponds exactly to my suggestion because 0.382 + 0.236 + 0.382 = 1.

And when you use 38.2% you will need two rectangles in each direction and rotate copies of both so you end up with a total of four rectangles in total.

And in that case it would be easier to just use the Goldener Schnitt directly and create two rectangles at 61.8% corresponding to 1/1.618 = 0.618 instead of calculating the 100% - 61.8% = 38.2%, or 1 - 0.618 = 0.382, or 1 - (1/1.618) = 0.382.