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How to type Arabic on curves without breaking

Explorer ,
Mar 27, 2018 Mar 27, 2018

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I have a type to fix on an outlined badge in Arabic, once I place the text over a curve it breaks.

Anyone have an idea how to do it?

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Adobe Community Professional , Mar 28, 2018 Mar 28, 2018
I wish there is an auto method, but there isn't.For your example above سلمون وردي you just need to fix connection in three points only since much of the characters are separate already. just fix connection here … سلمو

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Mar 27, 2018 Mar 27, 2018

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Hratch,

Have you tried the Path Type Tool based upon a circle?

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Explorer ,
Mar 27, 2018 Mar 27, 2018

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Yes, I tried and it still breaks.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 27, 2018 Mar 27, 2018

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Typefaces where characters are designed to connect smoothly together will always break if written along a curve. Font definition files simply don't have the data to explain how to re-shape each glyph when it's not in the "correct" position. You have two options:

  • Manually adjust the 'baseline shift' value of each character to bring them into alignment (for smaller text and shallow curves this is OK, but it will still leave a corner join if the angle between each character is large).
  • Create the text as a regular horizontal block, then use the Warp > Arc distortion. This will change the shape of the characters but will preserve the smooth connections between them.

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Explorer ,
Mar 27, 2018 Mar 27, 2018

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in Arabic if you adjust the baseline of each letter it will convert the character to an independent version.
Warp is not an option as it will change the shape as you said.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 27, 2018 Mar 27, 2018

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Then convert to outlines and fix everything manually.

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Explorer ,
Mar 27, 2018 Mar 27, 2018

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I'm sure there is a way as I've seen it once but I can't remember how.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Mar 28, 2018 Mar 28, 2018

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I agree with Dave, Warp is a fast method and resulted text will not break, however it squishes the text. Best result is to Outline then adjust all points and curves manually.

From experience, some Arabic fonts can stand bending without showing problems. You need to test some other GE fonts.

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Explorer ,
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I've tried many GE fonts and the issue is still there.

I can solve this small job manually.

But shouldn't this be doable in a way? other than fixing the curves manually?

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I wish there is an auto method, but there isn't.

For your example above سلمون وردي you just need to fix connection in three points only since much of the characters are separate already. just fix connection here … سلمو

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Explorer ,
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That's sad to hear.

Yes, that's already solved manually.

Thanks Ziad.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Mar 29, 2018 Mar 29, 2018

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I gather that this will be too late, and I know it's not perfect, but if you wanted to get the letters as well as the connectors to fit the curve, you might try Envelope Distort/Make with Mesh. It's still work, but it might be worth looking at.

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Explorer ,
Mar 29, 2018 Mar 29, 2018

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It's never too late

but I think this is even more time consuming than just fixing few curves.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Mar 29, 2018 Mar 29, 2018

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Hi Peter, I'm interested in this method, I just couldn't replicate the steps, so I appreciate if you can elaborate further on this technique.

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Explorer ,
Mar 29, 2018 Mar 29, 2018

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I think I found a way which is 95% accurate and simple.

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Adding the outlined line to the brush set will do.

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Mar 29, 2018 Mar 29, 2018

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Having the text on a curve as a brush is some thing we did some 15 years back when Illustrator didn't support Arabic back then and didn't allow us to type on a path directly. Having said that top-right text does look very good.

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Explorer ,
Mar 30, 2018 Mar 30, 2018

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Which it seems the only automatic way to do it on Illustrator.

I'm satisfied with the 95% until Adobe find a way around the Arabic font curving.

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New Here ,
Nov 01, 2021 Nov 01, 2021

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Hey, thanks for sharing this! I'm having the same problem and this seems to be super useful 🙂 How did you use the text as a brush? 

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