How to type Arabic on curves without breaking

[Hratch Derhagopian]

I have a type to fix on an outlined badge in Arabic, once I place the text over a curve it breaks.

Anyone have an idea how to do it?

[Jacob Bugge]

Hratch,

Have you tried the Path Type Tool based upon a circle?

[Hratch Derhagopian]

Yes, I tried and it still breaks.

[Dave Merchant]

Typefaces where characters are designed to connect smoothly together will always break if written along a curve. Font definition files simply don't have the data to explain how to re-shape each glyph when it's not in the "correct" position. You have two options:

• Manually adjust the 'baseline shift' value of each character to bring them into alignment (for smaller text and shallow curves this is OK, but it will still leave a corner join if the angle between each character is large).
• Create the text as a regular horizontal block, then use the Warp > Arc distortion. This will change the shape of the characters but will preserve the smooth connections between them.

[Hratch Derhagopian]

in Arabic if you adjust the baseline of each letter it will convert the character to an independent version.
Warp is not an option as it will change the shape as you said.

[Dave Merchant]

Then convert to outlines and fix everything manually.

[Hratch Derhagopian]

I'm sure there is a way as I've seen it once but I can't remember how.

[Zaid Al Hilali]

I agree with Dave, Warp is a fast method and resulted text will not break, however it squishes the text. Best result is to Outline then adjust all points and curves manually.

From experience, some Arabic fonts can stand bending without showing problems. You need to test some other GE fonts.

[Hratch Derhagopian]

I've tried many GE fonts and the issue is still there.

I can solve this small job manually.

But shouldn't this be doable in a way? other than fixing the curves manually?

[Zaid Al Hilali · Accepted solution]

I wish there is an auto method, but there isn't.

For your example above سلمون وردي you just need to fix connection in three points only since much of the characters are separate already. just fix connection here … سلمو

[Hratch Derhagopian]

That's sad to hear.

Yes, that's already solved manually.

Thanks Ziad.

[tromboniator]

I gather that this will be too late, and I know it's not perfect, but if you wanted to get the letters as well as the connectors to fit the curve, you might try Envelope Distort/Make with Mesh. It's still work, but it might be worth looking at.

Peter

[Hratch Derhagopian]

It's never too late

but I think this is even more time consuming than just fixing few curves.

[Zaid Al Hilali]

Hi Peter, I'm interested in this method, I just couldn't replicate the steps, so I appreciate if you can elaborate further on this technique.

[Hratch Derhagopian · Accepted solution]

I think I found a way which is 95% accurate and simple.

Adding the outlined line to the brush set will do.

[Zaid Al Hilali]

Having the text on a curve as a brush is some thing we did some 15 years back when Illustrator didn't support Arabic back then and didn't allow us to type on a path directly. Having said that top-right text does look very good.

[Hratch Derhagopian]

Which it seems the only automatic way to do it on Illustrator.

I'm satisfied with the 95% until Adobe find a way around the Arabic font curving.

[superely]

Hey, thanks for sharing this! I'm having the same problem and this seems to be super useful 🙂 How did you use the text as a brush? 

[ASalhab]

Hey Superely, you should make the text outlined at first and then you select it and make it "art brush" with "Scale Proportionately" box selected, and apply it on a circle as a stroke, that will do it.

[superely]

Thank you ASlhab for your explanation, and very sorry for my late reply!

[Zaid Al Hilali]

Outline text and Creating a brush out of the outlined text will give you sensible results. Thanks, Hratch for sharing.

[Bobby Henderson]

Astute Graphics Reform plugin for Illustrator has some interesting Text on Path features that allow type to follow curved source paths more closely. The effect does some slight warping to the letters, similar to what happens when turning lettering into an Art Brush. But the warping and distortion is a little more subtle.

https://astutegraphics.com/plugins/reform

[Lina T.36546122szoo]

Can you please tell me how can I do this exactly?

I can't seem to find this brush effect

[Monika Gause]

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@Lina T.36546122szoo  schrieb:

Can you please tell me how can I do this exactly?

I can't seem to find this brush effect

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I have made a video about a similar thing: https://youtu.be/PNiSMUuERcQ

In order to outline text: Type > Create Outlines.

Alternatively you can apply the Effect > Path > Outline object to the text object.

[Abde lghani33703345tunt]

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