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Image trace from line art scan produces double lined strokes

Community Beginner ,
Feb 09, 2017 Feb 09, 2017

I would like to get a single lined stroke when I scan a line art so that I can get simple shapes that can be filled with color later. However, when I trace the image and expand it, I see double lined strokes instead of a single line. The thickness of the line is small but still AI always produces a double lined trace. If I try to fill the shape with a color, the color is applied between the double lines and not in the overall shape. I have tried to change the resolution of the image while scanning and also after scanning using the Rasterize option under Object. I have also tried changing all available options on the Image Trace panel. Nothing seems to work. I need to generate single lined strokes form a line art.

Please help!!!

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Community Expert ,
Feb 10, 2017 Feb 10, 2017

mukult,

To get stroked paths, use Strokes under Tracing options:

https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/image-trace.html

You may also look here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/adobeillustrator/2013/07/image-trace-in-illustrator-a-tutorial-and-guide.html

Always expand after image tracing to get things to work.

Select it/them and Object>Image Trace>Expand.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 10, 2017 Feb 10, 2017

Jacob,

Thanks for the suggestions. I have already tried using strokes while tracing the scanned image and also reviewed all of the information. It does not solve the problem. I am using AI CC 2017. I am using an inked hand drawing that was scanned for image tracing.

I saw in one google search that changing the resolution of the image (rasterizing) can help. However, it did not work for me. The issue is still there. 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 10, 2017 Feb 10, 2017

Converting scanned line art with the Strokes option may not give you the result you are looking for.

If you want to fill shapes with color, you could try the default black and white preset, Expand the result and choose Object > Live Paint > Make to color the vectorized drawing.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 10, 2017 Feb 10, 2017

Screen Shot 2017-02-10 at 9.11.41 AM.png

This is what happens when I use Live Paint tool after image trace and expand. I can not fill the inside shape but the space between the two strokes gets filled.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 10, 2017 Feb 10, 2017

Please read about the feature here:

How to create and work with Live Paint groups in Illustrator

From your small example picture nobody will be able to tell what is going on and what might be possible.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 10, 2017 Feb 10, 2017

It is not clear what you did after Live Trace and expand.

Normally you will get a black and white result.

Where the black lines are shapes filled with black and the white areas can be filled with color.

It looks like you stroked the black "lines" with yellow.

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Explorer ,
Mar 12, 2017 Mar 12, 2017

I understand its usually a good idea to start a new thread for a new discussion - but I have exactly the same request as the OP and none of the answers here really dealt with the original issue or answered it so I'll pick it up and continue.

Here's the original request for clarity:

I would like to get a single lined stroke when I scan a line art

For my part, I am working from pencil sketches.

To get the clearest outlines the pencil sketches have been traced with a 0.2mm fine line pen.

The physical traces are then scanned at 600dpi in black and white.

I'm then using Image Trace in CC17

I've tried with a wide variety of settings including presets and custom options.

I can get a pretty good  looking result from this process.

However, everything I try leaves me with a double path which borders the original outline.

The space between the paths is filled, and the distance between them varies according to ImageTrace settings and Illustrator's whim.

And that isnt what I need.

What I need is a single path that averages the original sketch line. As tho I'd done it with the Pen tool

(Which is what I'm trying to avoid!)

I attach some images that might help explain. Each shows approx the same section.

1) ScannedSketch.jpg - is the Image from the scanner

2) ImageTracedOutline.jpg - is a screenshot from Illustrator showing the result from Image Trace (I forghet which bunch of settings)

3) DoublePaths.jpg - anothjer ss from Illustrator showing the double paths that enclose a fill (fill is off here).

I've been 2 or 3 days looking for a solution...

I've read the docs.

I've searched the internet

I've watched adobe videos

I've watched youtube videos

I've watched lynda videos (where I have a subscription)

I cant find an answer.

Can somebody please point out how dumb I am, and point me to a real easy method!

l.

ScannedSketch.jpg

ImageTracedOutline.jpg

DoublePaths.jpg

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Community Expert ,
Mar 12, 2017 Mar 12, 2017

Lusiana,

Did you try Strokes (and Stroke) as suggested in the first post? Under Tracing options (click right side at top); it says:

...

Strokes Creates stroked paths in the tracing result.

Stroke Specifies the maximum width of features in the original image that can be stroked. Features larger than the maximum width become outlined areas in the tracing result.

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Explorer ,
Mar 12, 2017 Mar 12, 2017

Jaob

thank you for your reply

yes I have tried stroke options. I didnt cover in first my post, but yes I can get a single line.

However the best I can get is a very clunky path, especially when compared to the elegant curves produced with double paths which are great - I just need only one of them!

These are really very simple sketches I have to digitize (the small clip above is quite typical) and I thought it would be an easy thing to do, But it seems not. There are a lot so a point and click solution would be ideal.

I dont use AI full time so the tool options are complex, and the ui is obtuse (at best!). Maybe I should look elsewhere for a solution.

l.

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Community Expert ,
Mar 12, 2017 Mar 12, 2017

lusianasetiani  schrieb

I dont use AI full time so the tool options are complex, and the ui is obtuse (at best!).

That's why some people spend a lot of years learning the trade.

They say that CorelDraw can do some decent single line trace. I have never tried it, so can't comment on that.

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Explorer ,
Mar 12, 2017 Mar 12, 2017

Monika

thank you for your reply

you are of course correct that a program like AI takes years to learn

I am installing corel as I write this

l.

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Explorer ,
Mar 12, 2017 Mar 12, 2017

Hi Monika

They say that CorelDraw can do some decent single line trace

I just tried it - from my pov its very very good. The Centerline Trace > Line Drawing does exactly what I need.

Thank you so much.

Regards

l.

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Community Expert ,
Mar 12, 2017 Mar 12, 2017

If the above is an example, why aren't you doing a manual trace? You, as the artist, can make judgements based on your desires that an automated system cannot make. The above can be traced is just a few moments, much less than trying to do it automatically.

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Explorer ,
Mar 12, 2017 Mar 12, 2017

Hi Larry

Thank  you also for your reply.

I am not the artist in this instance.

I am aware I can do a manual trace - but that is not what I or the OP asked about.

I came looking to see if there was a method to get a nice single path from AI's image trace tool.

The image I posted is a clip from a much larger image. The shapes are essentially quite simple (but nevertheless complex) line drawings, and there are lots of them.

It seemed to me it was an ideal job for Image Trace. No doubt I'll be wrong again!

Regards

l.

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New Here ,
Mar 31, 2018 Mar 31, 2018

This isn't that hard and, no, you don't need Corel Draw to solve the problem.

Using the advanced tracing panel, choose MODE: BLACK AND WHITE. Then check the STROKES box and uncheck the FILL box. Check the IGNORE WHITE BOX.

Then in the STROKES: pixels adjustment box find the pixel count that allows your line drawing to emerge as you want it. I start at 10 and go up.

Once you see what you want: EXPAND.

This should give you a single line trace that has all the elegance of your original line drawing.

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New Here ,
Jul 23, 2018 Jul 23, 2018

As simple as that ! I think that MLHorst was the first one to really understand the question. In any case, it worked like a charm for me. Thanks MLHorst .

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 13, 2019 Apr 13, 2019

MLHorst, half of the lines disappear with this method as Lusiana said earlier. Doesn't work.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 13, 2019 Apr 13, 2019

elena.51295936  schrieb

MLHorst , half of the lines disappear with this method as Lusiana said earlier. Doesn't work.

The thicker lines disappear?

Please read the documentation. And then increase the option named "stroke"

How to edit artwork in Illustrator using Image Trace

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 13, 2019 Apr 13, 2019

Lines are approximately the same thickness. Here is the example.

Before tracing:

Tracing with 10 px stroke:

Tracing with 50 px stroke:

If I take more than 50px nothing changes.

I tried changing all of the other parameters as well. These seem to be the best.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 13, 2019 Apr 13, 2019

This is just a small part of the image, correct? Maybe a very small part?

I could gt a slightly better result with just this small image when I added some blur to it in Photoshop. But The eyes and the nose vanished.

Centerline is meant for CAD like drawings, not this kind of stuff.

What's your problem with the shapes? That you can't decrease line weight?

In that case use Offset path.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 14, 2019 Apr 14, 2019

yes, small part. Blurring helped thank you! but not enough.

I'd rather trace as stroke, not a fill, because I want to color the doodles later. I know there are other ways but time consuming.

The preset of this kind of trace is called "line art" so it should be ok for line art I thought...

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Community Expert ,
Apr 14, 2019 Apr 14, 2019

It's about the coloring?

Nothing can be faster than Live paint actually.

How to create and work with Live Paint groups in Illustrator

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Community Expert ,
Apr 14, 2019 Apr 14, 2019
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Hi

Can you show your Live Trace panel with the Advanced section expanded so we can see your settings?

Jane

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