a volume that does not support Trash.

[krinkly2009]

I'm bitten yet again by Lightroom Classic's inability to move image files to my system trash. 

I've gone through all the solutions I could find:

Turned off Full Disk Access for Lightroom, restarted, turned Full Disk Access back on.

Created an empty folder on the affected disk and trashed it.

Created a Trash folder on the affected disk.

I've run Disk First Aid on the disk.

I still cannot move image files to my Mac's trash. I'm only allowed to permanently delete them.

Are there any new solutions?

Thanks for any help.

MacOS Sonoma 14.4.1

Mac Studio with Apple M2 Max

[JohanElzenga]

The solution is actually quite easy. Do not delete pictures from Lightroom Classic and from disk until you are 100% sure that is what you want to do. If you are 100% sure, then you do not really need them to go through an intermediate folder called '.Trash' (because that is all that happens if you move them to the Trash). Mark images as 'Rejected' if you think you do not need them anymore but aren't sure.

[krinkly2009]

I prefer the opposite, which is the way Aperture worked and Capture One works -- I'd like a Trash folder that keeps my trashed images inside the catalog but out of the way until I realize that I need one.

Maybe I can simply create a Lightroom Trash folder within Lightroom that would serve the same purpose.

[krinkly2009]

The trouble is, even a Lightroom Collection titled Trash will still show up in my main All Photographs and Previous Imports displays.

Hmm. Maybe at the same time set up my main Grid view to display only one star and greater images.

[JohanElzenga]

Do you mean a collection called 'Trash' showed up in the Library panel (not in the Collections panel) on the left? That's new to me and nobody else reported that as far as I know.

[krinkly2009]

No, I mean a user-(me)-created Collection.

[JohanElzenga]

Then no doubt you created that yourself and so it has nothing to do with this issue.

[krinkly2009]

You must be misunderstanding.

Because of a bug, Lightroom will only offer to immediately delete images files, not move them to the system trash, where I have a chance to recover them for a few days.

Because I hesistate to delete immediately, the only solution I've been able to come up with is to create a trash Smart Collection within Ligthroom. Then I simply move delete-flagged files there, and set my grid view as 2-star or greater.

Otherwise my grid is filled with rejected image files.

Ideally, like Aperture and Capture One, Lightroom would offer an internal Trash, where rejected files can live until I'm sure I want them permanently deleted. But there is no such feature.

[JohanElzenga]

OK, I do understand now what you meant. What I am saying is that this bug should not really have to bother you, if you just use common sense. Do not trash anything if you are not 100% sure that you don't want it anymore. I assume you do the same in real life. You also do not frequently throw stuff in a real trash can and then retrieve it days later, or do you? In real life that would be gross, to rely on your Trash folder as a way to retrieve stuff on your computer is dangerous. Make backups, then you don't have to do this!!

If you are not completely sure that you want to delete the image, then mark the image as 'Rejected' but keep it in the catalog for now. That *is* the feature you are asking! It just looks a little differently than a built-in trash can. Set up a filter that filters out rejected images, so they will not show up anymore in the different views (lock the filter, so it does not reset when you change views). Using this method also means you'll keep any edits and metadata, which would be lost if you removed the image from the catalog and moved it to the trash.

If you *are* 100% sure, then it doesn't matter that the image gets deleted from disk immediately.

[kdeng8013]

Suddenly I got the same msg in LRC as shown:

Looks like it happens only when I edit the images located in a SSD drive (Samsung SSD T9). It worked flawlessly till this morning when I powered on my macbook pro M3. I can delete images to Trash when editing them in the Macintosh HD drive. After experiencing ghe issue, I have updated the LRC and Cemera Raw as well. BTY, did  more tests: Editing the images in another Seagate drive does not experience the issue! I want to delete files to trash. Any idea, thanks!

[Aleke]

Hi @kdeng8013! Can you share a bit more info? Which macOS version are you working on?

Also, could you check if Lightroom Classic has the permissions to access all your folders? Since macOS 10.14 (Mojave), Apple introduced a new privacy structure to ensure that applications get user consent before accessing documents, downloads, desktop, and network volumes. After macOS upgrades, sometimes these permissions get revoked. You can find out how to fix this here: https://adobe.ly/4fkCmbh
Thanks!

Alek

[kdeng8013]

My macOS is 14.4 (23E214), or Sonoma 14.4. LRC 14.1.

Followed the steps in https://adobe.ly/4fkCmbh, and added LRC to the Full Disk Access, there is NO difference made (including reboot mac after changes).

I also run disk utility for: 1) reformat the T9 (to exFAT), and 2) reformat to APFS. 3) Run First Aid, etc. No diffrence made.

More info. I have a new Seagate 8T Disk drive works just fine.

Thanks Alek,

[kdeng8013]

More tests. Updated to the latest LRC and related apps in the Win10 platform. Can't reproduce the problem.

So, it's not a SSD drive issue. 

Have a nice weekend!

[JohanElzenga]

More tests. Updated to the latest LRC and related apps in the Win10 platform. Can't reproduce the problem.

So, it's not a SSD drive issue. 

By @kdeng8013

This has never been an issue on Windows. It's a MacOS only problem, that only occurs with MacOS-formatted drives.