Copy/paste of a mask does not work if more then one photo is selected

[Adamde-Ste-Croix]

It is not possible to copy paste a simple mask to more than one image. LR asks whether it should replace or merge but which ever option is selected it does nothing.

Steps to reproduce
1. Open a catalog with several photos

2. On one photo create a linear mask over the whole image and add 25% moire.

3. Check the changes are made correctly.

4. press the copy button (bottom of left sidebar) and copy only the mask. 

5. Select the other images and press paste. The "replace/merge" message will appear but whatever is selcted the mask will not paste to any of the other images.
6. Do the test again and only select one image and paste works.

Pasting a simple mask to several images does not work

MY TEST
In my case all photos were from the same camera and in the same file location. The mask was a linear mask of the whole screen to remove moire. No mater how many images were selected if it was above 1 then it didnt work and so 400 images have to be pasted to individually to correct the moire.
Using that latest windows version of LR classic 13.0.1 (just double checked that now).

ACTION
Adobe need to either fix the pasting of masks to several images or add a message to tell the user this is not permitted.

ADDITIONAL SUGGESTION
It would be good to have a global Moire slider within the detail tools and not just in the masks.

SYSTEM INFO

Lightroom Classic version: 13.0.1 []

License: Creative Cloud

Language setting: en

Operating system: Windows 11 - Business Edition

Version: 11.0.22631

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Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic

Library Path: C:\Users\Ad XPS\Pictures\2023\2023 COMMERCIAL\2023-10-30 Norland Portraits\2023-10-30 Norland Portraits.lrcat

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[JohanElzenga]

"It would be good to have a global Moire slider within the detail tools and not just in the masks."

Out of interest: When do you think you would use that? I don't think I have ever seen a photo with global Moire, and because removing Moire always causes some blurring, I would never want to use a global Moire removal on a photo that has local Moire.

[Adamde-Ste-Croix]

Portraits of hundreds of people sitting or standing in different positions, each dressed in the same uniform.
Global moire at 25 removes the moire without a noticeable deteriantion of the exported image.

Using a brush to do this would take hours. 

[Conrad_C]

Edit: OK, I just remembered the original post is that you’re already having trouble with the mask, so my earlier reply here (now in strikethrough below) sounds silly. But I just tried this on my own computer, copying a mask with a Moiré adjustment from one image and pasting to four others, and it worked for me. I tried it two different ways: With a Linear Gradient as you did, and also with the People mask method below. Both worked, both pasted to four other images with the correct adjustment.

Because it worked for me (also Lightroom Classic 13.0.1), one question is: How were the other images selected on your computer?

A) In Library module, Grid view

B) In Library module, Loupe view, in the Filmstrip

C) In Library module, on the Secondary Display window in Grid view

D) In Develop module, in the Filmstrip

E) In Develop module, on the Secondary Display window in Grid view

F) Another way: ________

A brush is not the only way. I just did a quick test: I created a People mask with Clothes selected, so that the mask would isolate only clothes on people. That would allow applying a Moiré adjustment that affects only clothes. Once that’s set up, you can simply sync or copy/paste the People clothes mask to any number of other images, and the adaptive AI-based People mask should auto-adapt to the shape of the clothes are in the destination images, applying the Moiré adjustment just to those areas.

If this is something you do every day, then you save that adjustment as a preset. Because it involves an AI mask (People), it would be an auto-adaptive preset.

This would let you select, for example, 346 images, apply the adaptive preset, watch it automatically adapt to each individual selected image, and never have to pick up the brush.

[Adamde-Ste-Croix]

Do you work for Adobe? Im reporting a bug. If you do please let me know what information you need in order to fix this. Thanks.

[Conrad_C]

No, I don’t work for Adobe, I’m just asking questions because it works for me, so I’m wondering what the difference is. If it also failed for me, then I would say “yeah that's a bug.” But because it’s working for me, it might not be a bug but something else not quite right.

The person you want to talk to is Rikk Flohr who has now responded to this thread. He definitely does work for Adobe, and is nice enough to drop into these threads and check out reported problems, escalating them if needed. Any actual Adobe employees are clearly marked, as he is.

Anyone marked as a “Community Expert” is typically not an Adobe employee, more of a volunteer who hangs out here to help out, I do it to learn from the questions.

[Adamde-Ste-Croix]

and all the methods of selection where tried, same bug.

[GoldingD]

Not the way I do that, and at first I was not sure at all what you meant by "press the copy button (bottom of left sidebar) and copy only the mask." But I suspect the following demonstrates what you are trying, how your are trying, and a different way to accomplish the past of masks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9jn1R1Uajw

Oh, and you can do this in batch.

in summary, use the Copy Settings then paste Settings buttons in the menu.

[Adamde-Ste-Croix]

thanks, regardless it is still a feature that LR provides that doesnt work and so requires fixing or removing.

[Adamde-Ste-Croix]

PLEASE NOTE. THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR HELP, IT IS A BUG REPORT FOR ADOBE.

I DO NOT REQUIRE HELP WITH THIS. PLEASE DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING.
THANK YOU.

[GoldingD]

4. press the copy button (bottom of left sidebar) and copy only the mask. 

hmm, when I look in my LrC copy, I do not see that, I may be reading that wrong.

Also, when I watch that video, I linked, and I watch what was being presented, I see what you may be stating, BUT, I do not see that in my LrC, no Copy.

Can you post a screenshot of that ?

What I see:

LrC 13.0.1 Windows 11

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

I cannot replicate this using your instructions. 

At step 5, no dialog appears and the masks paste to the new images selected. 

[Adamde-Ste-Croix]

then just delete this thread please as it wont get fixed. 

[johnrellis]

"4. press the copy button (bottom of left sidebar) and copy only the mask.

5. Select the other images and press paste. The "replace/merge" message will appear but whatever is selcted the mask will not paste to any of the other images.
6. Do the test again and only select one image and paste works."

[I don't work for Adobe, but if you ignore this, it will just take you longer to get to a correct understanding.]

This behavior of Paste is "as designed" by Adobe, and LR has always behaved this way (and has always confused users).

You are in Develop (the only module with a Copy button in the lower-left corner).  In Loupe view in both Develop and Library (one main image displaying), many commands, including Paste, only operate on the most-selected photo, not the entire selection of photos.

There are several methods for copying the settings to multiple photos:

1. Switch to Library Grid view (thumbnails showing) and do Photo > Develop Settings > Copy/Paste Settings.

2. In either Grid or Loupe view (one main photo showing) in either Library or Develop, in the filmstrip, right-click any of the selected photos and do Develop Settings > Paste Settings.

3. In Develop, with the source and target photos selected in the filmstrip, make sure the source photo is current (most selected) click the Sync button (lower-right corner). You can also do Photo > Develop Settings > Sync Settings in Library.

There may have been a design rationale in the early days of LR for how it handles selections of multiple photos, but today LR's behavior is confusing and inconsistent, and even experts can't remember all the rules:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-consistent-behavior-when-multiple-photos-se...