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File transfers via NAS using LRC v13.0.1 (Win11) is 100x slower than previous releases!

Community Beginner ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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My Win11 machine is setup with Lr catalogs on local SSD, and photos on mapped SMB file share.  It's connected via 10Gigabit ethernet and the SMB share is hosted on a dedicated NAS device with SSD drives.  The NAS array easily sustains 2Gbps file writes, and reads faster than that (see scenario 1 below).  This performance is usually great for me, but when I transfer files through Lightroom Classic 13.0.1, I'm seeing write speeds closer to 1990s dial-up modems 2Mbps! (see scenario 2 below)  This wasn't a problem with older versions of Lightroom, and the performance bottleneck doesn't affect any other apps on my system.  Any suggestions out there?  FWIW, my antivirus is the built-in Windows Defender and has a process exclusion on Lightroom.exe, so I'm pretty confident that has nothing to do with the issue.

 

Scenario 1:  file transfer from SSD>NAS via explorer (similar transfer rates with NAS>SSD)Screenshot 2023-11-04 154808.png

 

Scenario 2:  file transfer from NAS>SSD via Lightroom Classic (similar transfer rates with SSD>NAS)

Screenshot 2023-11-04 155600.png

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LEGEND ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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Ok, I am confused. Read that several time, maybe I need less Coffee.

 

Some take aways

 

  • Your catalog is on a local hard drive connected to your computer.
  • Your Photos are on your NAS
  • You used Windows Files Explorer to Copy Photos from your hard drive to your NAS
  • You used LrC, in the Folders Panel to Move Photos from your NAS to your Hard Drive.

 

Some questions

 

  • When you first Import your Photos, where to you place them? What is the destination?
  • Maybe the above question helps answer this. Why are you copying Photos from the hard drive to the NAS if yo keep your Photos on the NAS?
  • Why are you Moving Photos from LrC to the NAS? Are they not already on the NAS??

 

Perhaps a step by step walkthrough your workflow may help.

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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Correct summary.  LR doesn't support catalogs over the network, so they're on a local drive, even though the photos are usually on the NAS.  Ordinarily, I import from camera to NAS, but with the current state of performance so unusably slow, I have to import to the SSD now too until this bug is fixed.  I had a portrait shoot mof my youngest daughter the other day (gorgeous thumbnail above), and shot a few hundred frames then tried to import to NAS like usual when I hit this bug for the first time.  The Windows explorer transfer was just to show that the PC, network, and NAS are clearly not the problem here...

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Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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Clarification:  When I said "ordinarily, I import from camera to NAS" I ommitted the crucial detail that I do it through LRC's Import feature.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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Ok, past workflow understood

Current work around workflow understood

 

Issue is currently Importing from NAS too slow, Something in LrC kaput. And as to indicate not an issue with odd bits such as Face Detection, Address Lookup, Cloud Sync, if you import from SSD, It is Ok performance wise.

 

Now, just too make sure,. In the past, when you imported photos that are on your NAS, You used the Add option in the LrC Import, correct?

 

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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correct.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 04, 2023 Nov 04, 2023

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So, not my normal workflow, but what the heck I can try out to learn or just to see what may be going wrong.

 

In my case A DiskStation 1821+.  Computer, and NAS connected to switches and one another on 10GP LAN (well this part of it) And a Test catalog I keep for such things on a SSD in my PC. Attempted to Add in Import 18 Fuji X-T5 RAW (RAF) images. Minimum Previews, No Presets. The Computer, the NAS, all my Switches, have been checked for and/or updated in the past few days (so I know no driver/firmware, issues)

 

Import took seconds.

 

My, Sys Info:

 

 

 

 

 

Lightroom Classic version: 13.0.1 [ 202310121438-d2af310c ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en
Operating system: Windows 11 - Home Premium Edition
Version: 11.0.22621
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 32
Processor speed: 2.9GHz
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
CPU Utilisation: 0.0%
Built-in memory: 65243.7 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 16.9MB / 8032.0MB (0%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 65243.7 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 5870.4 MB (8.9%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 6718.3 MB
GDI objects count: 1015
USER objects count: 3862
Process handles count: 2917
Memory cache size: 0.0MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.0 [ 1677 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 523MB / 32621MB (1%)
Camera Raw real memory: 527MB / 65243MB (0%)
System DPI setting: 144 DPI (high DPI mode)
Desktop composition enabled: Yes
Standard Preview Size: 3840 pixels
Displays: 1) 3840x2160
Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: Yes, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No

Graphics Processor Info: 
DirectX: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 (31.0.15.4601)
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: Off

Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: W:\Active Projects\Photography\test\test-v13.lrcat
Settings Folder: C:\Users\DavidsLocal\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

Installed Plugins: 
1) AdobeStock
2) ASUSDCP
3) Aurora HDR
4) DxO PhotoLab 5
5) DxO PhotoLab 5 Importer
6) Flickr
7) Helicon Focus Export
8) jf Bag-o-Goodies
9) jf Extended Search
10) jf Metadata Viewer
11) jf Metadata Wrangler
12) jf System Info
13) Loupedeck2
14) Luminar 4
15) Nik 6 HDR Efex
16) Nikon Tether Plugin
17) ON1 Effects 2023
18) ON1 HDR 2023
19) ON1 NoNoise AI 2023
20) ON1 Photo RAW 2023
21) ON1 Photo RAW 2024
22) ON1 Portrait AI 2023
23) ON1 Resize AI 2023
24) Plugin Parameters
25) SmugMug
26) Topaz Photo AI

 

 

 

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Nov 06, 2023 Nov 06, 2023

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"my antivirus is the built-in Windows Defender and has a process exclusion on Lightroom.exe,"

 

As a test, try temporarily turning Windows Defender off completely. (When troubleshooting non-obvious problems, suspect everyone.)

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