Files saved in sub-folders get added to catalogue automatically

[MyMosaic]

Hey All!

I'm encountering a strange problem. Say I import RAW files from a shoot into a designated folder. I process a photo and save it in a sub-folder as a new format. That new file gets added to my catalogue right alongside my original RAW files. Now my catalogue is filled with the same file in multiple formats, it's getting very cluttered.

I called Adobe and they were not able to figure out the issue. Has anyone encountered this?

Hope I'm explaining it clear enough.

Thanks!

-Alex

[Just Shoot Me]

In the Export dialog there is an option to "Add to This Catalog". You have that checked.

If you don't want exported images to be added to the catalog un-check that option

[Rob_Cullen]

Lightroom does not "Save" files. Lightroom can 'Export' derivative files. Photoshop can "Save" files.

I am interested to know what you mean by "save it in a sub-folder as a new format" and the steps you take to do this.

If you are 'Exporting' then there is an option in the Export dialog- [Add to this Catalog]

If you are sending the photo to Photoshop by [Edit-in] then a 'Save' in Photoshop automatically places the new derivative file back in the Lr Catalog.

[MyMosaic]

I usually open the image in Photoshop using the [Edit-in] feature.

After making my edits to it, I 'Save-As', in a sub-folder of where the original RAW file is.

Despite "Saving-As", in a new location, that new file is still added to the catalogue.

[Rob_Cullen]

Your screen-clip does not really show much information about your question.

So what is the sub-folder, and what is the new format?

It would help if we also knew the Version NUMBERS of your Lr, Ps, and OS.

If you [Edit-in] Photoshop (a raw file- NEF, DNG)  then a "Save" in Ps will create the new format file in the same folder as the original raw image. (This is the Lr normal workflow)

If you again use [Edit-in] but then do a "Save As" you will create a new format file in the folder you selected, and the image will not be in the catalog unless you then do a folder synchronization in Lightroom.

There is also the possibility that if you "Save As" then "Close" the file you might see a message like-

If you answer "Yes" to this message (or hit Enter/Return) then Photoshop WILL create another derivative file in the format as you have set in External Editing Preferences for Photoshop, and in the same folder as the original.

Eg. If EE preferences are for TIF in Photoshop-

"Save As" can produce a JPG saved anywhere (but not in the Catalog.)

Answer [Yes] in the dialog (screen-clip) and Ps will also "Save" a TIF beside the original raw.

It is complicated! I know!!!

[Just Shoot Me]

As above your screen shot shows nothing of what you speak of in your question.

I just did a test. I selected an image, right clicked on it and selected Edit in PS. Once the Fuji RAF file was open in PS I then selected Save As. In the File manager window that came up I selected to create a new folder, Named it Test JPG and hit the enter key, the new folder was created. I then selected that new folder and opened it by double clicking on it. Once it was open I used the same name as the RAW file and clicked the Save As, or OK, Or Whatever to actually save that file. There was NO new file in LR, No New Folder shows up in LR.

"​BUT" what I did first was select any photo, click the Export button. In the export window I un-checked the option to "Add to This Catalog" and "Stack with Original" and then I actually Exported that image (you have to actually Export an image for any changes you make in the export dialog to take hold). Then I opened the LR Preferences and on the External Editor tab I un-checked the option to "Stack With Original" and then clicked the Restart LR button. Once that was done I then sent a selected photo to PS and did what I described above.

I also did another test and this time I selected an already existing subfolder to Save As a JPG and again No new file was added to LR.

So it is one of those settings that is causing your Saved As file to be Auto Added to the LR catalog.

Now IF when the photo first shows up in PS and I do a normal Save then I file does get added to the catalog. Then if I then do a Save As and select or create a subfolder that Saved As image does NOT get added BUT the original Save image does. Maybe it is that original Save option image that is getting added and that is what you are seeing?

Please state the Step by step options you are using and what are the setting in the Export window and in the External Editor tab of the LR Preferences.

Also If I do only a Save As once the file is opened in PS, using JPG as the file format, the Original RAW file is still open in PS and if I then try to close PS I get a warning and asked if I want to Save the open file.

We need to know the Exact steps you are taking.

[JohanElzenga]

alexs82571989  wrote

I usually open the image in Photoshop using the [Edit-in] feature.

After making my edits to it, I 'Save-As', in a sub-folder of where the original RAW file is.

Despite "Saving-As", in a new location, that new file is still added to the catalogue.

Yes, this seems to be different than it was in the past. I noticed this too some time ago. In the past, we always warned people that they should use "Save" to save an image that was sent to Photoshop. If you used "Save As", then the image would not be added back to the catalog. This seems to be different now, at least on my Macs, and "Save As" will also add the image to the catalog. If you don"t want that, then use "Export" rather than "Edit in Photoshop" (and open the image in Photoshop after export; you can set that in the Export dialog).

[Bob Somrak]

JohanElzenga​,  I can confirm that doing Edit In and Save As brings the photo back into Lightroom and is different than what is was in the past.

[MyMosaic]

So just to clarify -

I should export it as a PSD file and open that file in Photoshop?

INSTEAD OF [Edit-In] Photoshop..

Is that correct?

Thanks so much for the help everyone!!

[JohanElzenga]

alexs82571989  wrote

So just to clarify -

I should export it as a PSD file and open that file in Photoshop?

INSTEAD OF [Edit-In] Photoshop..

Is that correct?

Thanks so much for the help everyone!!

Yes.

[Rob_Cullen]

And you can set the Lr Export dialog to 'automatically' "Open" the new file in Photoshop by a choice in the [Post Processing] panel-