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Lightroom 3 Freezes On Dust Spot Removal

New Here ,
Jun 08, 2010 Jun 08, 2010

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I am going through a 300 old photos that were scanned to .jpg files and cropping/adjusting the photos to create a DVD slide show.  When I first started, Lightroom locked up a couple times using the dust spot removal tool.  The cursor was a closed hand and nothing responded.  After killing the app a couple of times, It was working for about a hour, and then started having problems again.  When I clicked on the spot removal tool, the cursor stayed as a closed hand.  I quit and came back it. The spot removal again locked up the application.  It seems to happen on larger spot removals.  Trying to modify the large spot removals also causes Lightroom to hang up (last time was with a resize cursor). 

I am running the 64 bit version on Windows 7 Professional, 6GB Ram, Quad-Core, no other programs running.  My 300 photos and catalog (with ony these photos in it) are on on an Solid State Drive.  I am using duel monitors with duel ATI Radeon HD 4600 1GB cards.

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New Here ,
Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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Thank you for your response. I took Lr3 to my officice which has a 64 bit platform computer and spot removal brush worked spontaneously.

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Barry Liebowitz, M.D.

President, Doctors Council

http://www.doctorscouncil.com

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People's Champ ,
Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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Glad, you've got it working.

May I ask what your processor and RAM is at your work computer?

ErnstK

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New Here ,
Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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My processor is an AMD six core processor. 8 g of ram.

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People's Champ ,
Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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This would be in line with my assumption that local adjustments in LR involve a lot of number crunching.

No wonder that your office machine does a better job.

Thanks for this confirmation.

ErnstK

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People's Champ ,
Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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Ah, sorry George. By mistake I took your answer for that of drLightroom.

ErnstK

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New Here ,
Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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INTEL C3 4gb ram, Acer computer. Hope this helps

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People's Champ ,
Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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Thank you.

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Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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I am upgrading my memory soon (2 GB to 4 GB) so hopefully that helps! 

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People's Champ ,
Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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It will help some. But according to my observations it's more a question of CPU power and speed. Unfortunately you can't upgrade that.

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Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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My CPU is an Intel Core 2 Duo E8500...so decently fast do you think?

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Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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I am going to load the software[ Lr3 ]on a similar set up this week and see how it does.

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Barry Liebowitz, M.D.

President, Doctors Council

http://www.doctorscouncil.com

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Jul 12, 2010 Jul 12, 2010

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You will find comments on this, including mine, elsewhere in this forum. I have similar problems with various functions in LR3, including with the cloning tool.  Freezes, slowness, etc.  Tried many, many things to see if I could fix, which I won't repeat here. Things seemed to get better and I can sometimes work for relatively long periods of time, and then the problem returns for a bit, and then goes away again.  I will say that LR2 would occassionally get a little quirky for me and become unresponsive, but I would just close and reopen and it would generally go away. LR3 has been, and sometimes still is, something else again: absolutely unusable at times.

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Jul 13, 2010 Jul 13, 2010

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yep .. we've all been leaving a trail of cookies for Adobe to follow .. but not much back from them yet.

I'm gradually getting used to the slowness, the incessant screen size changing when cropping that can become maddening when you're trying to line stuff up, and the thinking moments mid- "spot removal" drag.

If you recall, LR2.1 was pretty bad, performance-wise, until Adobe "did something" and pushed out an upgrade.

(you see they've done this before... its a familiar pattern from Adobe)

And we're all running absolute beasts - so I don't think it much matters whether we compare 4 vs 6 vs 8 cpus.

We just gotta wait I guess.

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Jul 14, 2010 Jul 14, 2010

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take a look at the memory usage.

i pretty sure, LR3 has a memory leak. I see the same problem with the brush tool and had hickups yesterday too.

After restarting LR3 everything is fine - for the next few pictures - before it's getting slow again (until it hangs)

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People's Champ ,
Jul 14, 2010 Jul 14, 2010

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Maybe -  I'm not a computer specialist and I don't even really know what precisely a memory leak is or does.

I observed exactly the behaviour that you describe - that LR gets slow, then "hangs", then recuperates and then it gets slow again. But in my observation this recuperation is independent of re-starting LR or not. LR recuperates also just by waiting (boy - that's an exercise in patience!)

My observation is also that memory demand is not particularly high when this happens. I have 4GB of RAM but LR seldom gets up to 2 GB.

But my CPU is working like crazy: during the "hanging" or "freezing" of LR the CPU (dual-core at 3 GB) is at 100%.

Thus is seems to me that it's not a memory problem but a problem of too much "number-crunching" when using local adjustments (cloning-healing tool; adjustment brush; gradient filter).

I have a hunch that local adjustments are very difficult for a non-pixel based software.

ErnstK

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Jul 14, 2010 Jul 14, 2010

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I am hardly a computer expert, but it doesn't seem to me as though the basic functions of the cloning, adjustment brush and gradient tools have changed from LR2.  Yes, when they work in LR3 they do seem to work more smoothly and quickly, but the end result seems the same and these tools in LR2 seem to work quickly enough on a decently spec'd machine (not so well on, say, a G5 iMac though). Maybe a case of "if it ain't broke....?"

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New Here ,
Jul 14, 2010 Jul 14, 2010

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Any program that freezes up a compuer is broke and needs to be fixed. You don't have to be a computer expert to know this.

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Guest
Jul 15, 2010 Jul 15, 2010

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TRUE!

assuming we all remember as far back as 1 month ago to Lightroom 2.7, and ignoring the new stuff like lens correction, if the new version 3 fails to perform as reliably and quickly on the same computer the same functions of adjustment brush, spot removal, then It IS BROKEN - and no further need for discussion. It handled it before. It doesn't now.  Therefore Q E D its a BUG!!!!! no further discussion necessary.  it's as obvious as the nose on a face.

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People's Champ ,
Jul 15, 2010 Jul 15, 2010

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pgmartphoto writes:

"assuming we all remember as far back as 1 month ago to Lightroom 2.7, and ignoring the new stuff like lens correction, if the new version 3 fails to perform as reliably and quickly on the same computer the same functions of adjustment brush, spot removal, then It IS BROKEN - and no further need for discussion. It handled it before. It doesn't now.  Therefore Q E D its a BUG!!!!! no further discussion necessary.  it's as obvious as the nose on a face."

Your assumption is incorrect insofar as the local adjustments were just as slow in LR 2.

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Jul 15, 2010 Jul 15, 2010

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don't agree.  LR 2.7 was much faster than this v 3 is.

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Jul 15, 2010 Jul 15, 2010

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This just echoes so much of what is being posted. LR3 seems not to be ready for prime time. I've had mail from Adobe that says that they're listening, but I don't hear anything about their plans to fix this. LR3 is sssslllllooooooowwwwww compared to 2.7. Someone suggested a "memory leak." I'm not enough of a tech to know what this means, but I do know that I have to reboot LR3 about every half hour to get it back up to speed.

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Jul 15, 2010 Jul 15, 2010

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There used to be a saying "do not by a car in the first year of its production" I thought Lightroom 3 had enough Beta time so I bought it. To say the least I am befuddled and hope as the year goes by this product becomes what was promised

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Barry Liebowitz, M.D.

President, Doctors Council

http://www.doctorscouncil.com

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Jul 15, 2010 Jul 15, 2010

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ditto!

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Mar 15, 2011 Mar 15, 2011

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web-weaver wrote:

I have a hunch that local adjustments are very difficult for a non-pixel based software.

Not if done right.

The interaction with "lens distortion correction" (turn that off if you can) is advanced but clearly something is wrong about the programming approach for local adjustments. There is no need for them to become increasingly slower the more you apply. It is everyone's guess as to why there is no fix.

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New Here ,
Mar 16, 2011 Mar 16, 2011

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No, this has nothing to do with lens distortion on my system. Lens distortion profiles won't even work on non-RAW files.

I already said that auto XMP update and write develop settings to the file were causing the slowdowns on my two PCs.

Irritating but I can live without that for now.

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