Lightroom Performance on 5950x Problems

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Hello All

I have recently upgraded from the 3900XT to the 5950x,

lightroom software version is the same 11.5, i have been using it for the last 2-3 months and exporting approx 400/500 photos per 5-6 mins using the 3900XT ,

Please note i have had the 3900XT for 2 years with this level of performance.

further specs include RTX 3070 and 64GB ram plus 2tb NVME * 3 !held together on a Asus X570Prime Mobo.

After upgrading to the 5950x few days ago, I noticed the exports being a little slower, so today i timed it, a gallery of 600 photos exporting at a rate of 25 per 1 min, so in 5-6 mins i only had approx 125 photos exported!!!!

any ideas on what can cause this? the software version and everything has remained the same, CPU is running at 100% during exports all cores being utilised.

Any help would be appreciated

Thank you

[johnrellis]

Some initial troubleshooting steps:

1. Try unchecking Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor > Use GPU For Export. Do exports go faster? If so, update your graphics driver by going directly to the manufacturer's web site.

2. Look at the progress bar in the upper-left corner of LR. Does the export stall for the first 30 seconds to couple of minutes before exporting the first photo, and then exports going at the formerly observed "normal" speed?  A number of people have observed this, and there are no known workarounds other than rolling back to LR 11.

3. If steps 1 and 2 don't help, do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here, so we can see the precise hardware and software versions LR is using.

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Hello John

Please note I have ran some tests, on Adobe Lightroom v11 the 5950x Exports around 65 photos per min,

on Adobe lightroom 11.5 it does 30 photos per 1 min, same performance on both CPU and GPU

GPU is RTX 3070 again 30 photos per min. took me 15-20 mins to export approx 500 photos which * 3 is approx 60 mins

I have managed to narrow this down to a software fault as opposed to hardware, however lightroom v11 doesnt recognise my Sony A7iv Files!!

[johnrellis]

1. Try updating to LR 12.0.1 (the current version). Adobe is making continual changes to export.

2. Are you exporting with a watermark?  Is it text or graphic?

[Zoom5C7E]

Yes i have tried to update but it still behaves similar unfortunatly 

[johnrellis]

Are you exporting with a text or graphic watermark?

[Zoom5C7E]

No,

I did a test, i did some work few days ago and i imported a gallery of 500, after importing i exported them straight away with zero adjustments, the 5950x was doing this at a rate of 60 photos per min, understandable as there was zero adjustments applied, i then proceeded to edit the first photo, Contrast, Shadows, Highlights, Colour adjustments etc , then copied and pasted this to all the 500 photos, so now all 500 are edited , i hit export again 60 photos per min! I was like right iv cracked it, 

then i proceeded to edit the photos individually as the applying the adjustment to all the photos meant some photos where over exposed, so there was only a slight difference of exposure between all the photos, after spending 2-3 photos editing the whole gallery going photo by photo, i hit export 1 last time, and this time it revereted back to the slow speed of 30 photos per min, this doubled my exporting time and what should take 10 mins took 20 mins, i export in 3 different crops, Square, 4:3 and full crop so each gallery is exported 3 times, so now we go from 10 mins per gallery to 20 mins per gallery = 60 mins!!! from 30 mins, and it is so frustrating , i have had my system built for 2 years exporting flawlessly around 50 photos per 1 min, the only change i did was change the CPU from the 3900XT to the 5950x and although the CPU is at 100% whilst exporting its only doing 30 photos per 1 min on both GPU enabled and CPU enabled i have tried both, it cannot get above 30 photos per 1 min on Exports

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No graphic or watermark applied

[johnrellis]

"No graphic or watermark applied"

That eliminates one source of known issues....

[payday29201085aohu]

It's possible that the slower export times you're experiencing with your new 5950x CPU could be related to a number of factors, including:

1. Lightroom settings: Make sure that your Lightroom settings are optimized for your new CPU. You may need to adjust settings like the number of CPU cores being used or the amount of RAM allocated to Lightroom to get the best performance.

2. Hardware configuration: Check that your new CPU is properly configured with the correct drivers and settings, and that it's not being throttled due to overheating or power management issues.

3. Software version: While you mentioned that you're using the same Lightroom version as before, it's possible that there have been updates or changes to the software that could be affecting performance. Consider updating Lightroom to the latest version and see if that helps.

4. Background processes: Make sure that there are no other programs running in the background that could be slowing down your computer's performance during exports.

5. Storage: Ensure that your storage is functioning correctly and that there is enough free space available for the export process.

If none of these steps help, you may want to reach out to Adobe support or the manufacturer of your CPU for further assistance. They may be able to provide additional troubleshooting steps or help you identify any underlying issues with your system.

I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.

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Hello Johnrellis

Thank you for your reply,

starting from point 1 - I have actually done this test in lightroom the 3900XT Processor was faster than my RTX 3070 at exports,

However upon doing this test again the RTX 3070 is faster than my 5950x, however as i did this test previosly i know my RTX 3070 isnt faster than my 3900XT, which would then make my 16 Core CPU slower than its 12 Core counter part.

at the moment i still have my 5950x in my system and i might swap it out if i cant get to the bottom of this mystery as it is costing me lot of time waiting for exports,

so in order to think i am not imagining this, i have just checked a gallery i exported last week when the 3900Xt processor was still in my system, first photo export time 10:38am - Last Photo export time 10:47 - 9 mins to export approx 500 photos.

so i tried to export the same gallery again and in 5 mins the 5950x only managed 100 photos! so in ten mins that would be 200 photos so we are talking approx 25 mins for a full 500 photo export that my 3900XT would have done in 8 mins.

going to point 2 the performance remains consistently slow throughout the whole export at a rate of 25 photosish per min.

the lightroom is the same version i was using on the 3900Xt getting blistering fast exports, the only thing that has changed is the CPU change, I have updated Mobo, Bios, Chipset and GPU Drivers just now and it is still the same,

worse comes to worst i will put my 3900XT back in my computer but it would be nice if i could figure out what is causing the painfully slow exports on one the best ryzen 16 core CPU of its time.

i will do a log dump for the 3rd point 

Thank you so far

[Maxi5FF4]

Hello, 

I have a similar setup like you. (5950x and 3070)

Lightroom Classic-Version: 12.2.1

When I use CPU + GPU export, I only use 4 Cores / 8 threads and 20 % of the GPU. The export time is like 70-80 sec for 100 Photos (Canon EOS R --> DNG converted). 

For the CPU export, i get 100% CPU utilization and 4.3 - 4,4  GHz (140-160 Watts) and 60sec for 100 photos

The only thing i can think of is probaly the PBO in your bios is deaktivatet

[Zoom5C7E]

thanks for your reply, i have actually given up on this now, im getting 40 photos per 1 min on either GPU Export or CPU export.

on CPU Export the CPU actually runs at 100% usage

on GPU export the GPU only runs at 20%.

either way it cannot get past 40 photos per 1 mins regardless of what settings i use so i have given up now

[johnrellis]

"either way it cannot get past 40 photos per 1 mins"

1.5 secs per raw is in the expected range of LR performance.  What's the pixel resolution of the photos you're currently exporting?

[Paul371504379yuf]

@Maxi5FF4  @Zoom5C7E  I have the same issue, any updates or fixes from you guys ?

My i9-8700 wit gtx1080 is exporting faster in both premier/media encode & lightroom than my 5950x with rtx 2070. I updated the my windows to 11 thinking it would help but it didn't. Using 2024 premiere and lightroom.

Something is stoping adobe to use the cpu/gpu fully, right now i'm transcoding with media encoder using software as it's almost realtime and it's using %100 cpu

[Paul371504379yuf]

sorry gtx1060, not gtx 1080

[dj_paige]

@Paul371504379yuf 

Please start a new thread and describe our problem from the beginning. People will be happy to help you in a new thread. Adding your problem into an old thread isn't a good idea.

[DdeGannes]

Just my thoughts, the export function in LrC is not just a copy / paste function, there has to be rerendering of the original and apply all your edits to send the final image to an alternate location. The speed of this process will be restricted by the weakest link in the process.

Prior to the release of Lightroom in Feb 2007 Adobe purchased a company that produced an application for rendering raw images it was called Rawshooter Premium. I was using that software application at the time and it had a feature which allowed one to setup an export process prior to starting editing the images. As you finished ending an image or batch of images you could add them to the export queue then start the export process, it was a background as only used computer resources during idle time so you could continue carrying out your editing. That way by the time you finished editing the export process was well on the way to completion.

Maybe a user who is in need to produce images in a short timeframe could make a case for submitting a idea for such a feature.

Export time under 2 seconds per image is quick if you are applying lots of edits to images.