Nikon D850 is comming and LR continues always slow... is One1 Photo Raw the solution??

[higie35176889]

We are so tired to hear the same: render 1:1 (your 3000 wedding raw catalog), put you catalog in your fastest nvme ssd, forget 1080TI gpu aceleration, forget 4K monitor, forget 6950X cpu at 4,4 Ghz Overclok, forget 32 GB ram... Sucks!!

I want ask everyone: WHY ADOBE DON´T FIX THESE LR ISSUES?? I think Adobe is not integrated with Intel, Nvidia, AMD to create a good solution for milions LR users. It seems Adobe is the "ugly duck" of this area of technology.

And now D850 is comming with 45MP sensor. So what? Can we believe in LR performance? Is our fault to spend money in a very ultra high end pc to run a very slow software? And what about Canon 5Ds users??

It seems One1 Photo Raw is the real solution...

And you? what is your opinion??

Cheers!!

[Abambo]

Give One a try.

[higie35176889]

I think adobe engeneers feels ashamed and keep the silence

[Abambo]

I don't think so! But that is only my personal opinion. I think they are quite proud of their accomplishment. I do not know ON1 Photo Raw so I won't comment on this but I am more than happy with Lightroom. And I'm not affiliated with Adobe.

[higie35176889]

Perfect for you, but most of the people don´t have this opinion because some of them works with a huge workflow everyday. It´s not necessary to be afiliated to Adobe: if we pay for the product we deserve good performance

[JP Hess]

Surely you can't believe that Adobe would simply ignore this performance issue. Unfortunately, there are some like yourself who have experienced severe performance issues. This has been an ongoing challenge for Adobe and something they are working on. If that performance issue is something that necessitates you looking elsewhere for suitable software as a solution then so be it. There isn't much else that can be said. This is a user to user forum. Almost everyone who responds here is just another user like yourself. We can't refund money, we can't threaten anyone's job, we can't make any promises, we can only offer help and make suggestions.

[Abambo]

I'm working with Adobe products to earn my living. That's it. If you feel a different tool fits more your needs, go for it. When I felt other tools were no more appropriate, I changed for Adobe.

[Jao vdL]

higie35176889  wrote

render 1:1 (your 3000 wedding raw catalog),

That's bad advice. It does NOT help except in very limited types of workflow. You just need standard previews at a size large enough for your main monitor. You only should do the 1:1 previews if you are the type of shooter that has a significant fraction of images just slightly out-of-focus and if you want the first selection pass to be checking for focus. That is maybe true for sports people and such but most of those folks use different software to do their initial culling that doesn't even attempt to render the raw files but simply shows you the embedded jpegs. I've suggested for years to Adobe that they should have an option in Lightroom to do that (just use the jpeg preview and wait to render from raw until later) to get a faster initial workflow.

[Conrad_C]

Last month (July 2017), Adobe agreed that there are performance problems with Lightroom. They said this in a blog post (On Lightroom Performance), which includes a link to a survey asking us to give them specific feedback about improving Lightroom performance. Adobe said "…improving performance is our current top priority." So it looks like Adobe is probably going to work on this. At least they are saying they've heard the complaints.

If Photo Raw has all the features you need, maybe it is a good solution for you. But if Lightroom still has some features you need that are missing from Photo Raw, then your decision will depend on whether you think On1 can add the missing features faster than Adobe can speed up Lightroom.

Also, On1 Photo Raw is not the only alternative out there. In the past few years, many competing commercial and free raw developers have appeared, and some also have organizational tools. If you want to replace Lightroom, you might also look at Phase One CaptureOne, MacPhun Luminar, Affinity Photo, DxO Optics Pro, LightZone, DarkTable, and others. Some are better than Lightroom in some ways, but not better in other ways. You want to make sure that whatever you choose is the best fit for how you want to edit and organize your photos.

[davidn28273510]

My main camera is a Sony A7R II, and performance in Lightroom is just miserable. The worst part is that it seemingly falls apart at random. I can go through 10 or so photos and it will run very smoothly, but at some point it will just break down and everything I do will take ages to process. I recently rebuilt my photo editing rig to a Ryzen 7 1700x @ 3.8Ghz (8 cores, 16 threads), 32GB DDR4 3000 Mhz RAM, Radeon RX Vega 64 and it definitely runs faster than my old i5 2500k, 16GB DDR3 RAM and GTX 970 build, but there always seems to be a point where the whole thing just bogs down and never recovers. Sometimes it will fix itself after rebooting the program and sometimes not.

It's very frustrating. Capture One performs amazingly well in comparison and is very consistent, but I am used to my workflow in Lightroom and can't seem to produce the same results in C1.

[KR Seals]

I doubt that you will actually let the wedding customer see all 3000 images. For fast culling of big shoots, try Photo Mechanic. It is lightning fast and let you tag and save the keepers so you won't have to import them all into LR, saving you all that time to cull in LR.

[ProDesignTools]

From Adobe's blog last month:

Support for the Nikon D850 and Lightroom

[ProDesignTools]

And now:

Lightroom 6.13 now available

"

New Camera Support in Lightroom 6.13

• ...
• Nikon D850"

[Conrad_C]

Ultimately, both of the original post's concerns (performance, and support for the Nikon D850) have now been addressed.

The new Lightroom Classic CC has both performance improvements and support for the D850.

The Lightroom 6.13 update has support for the D850, but no performance improvements.

[Bob Somrak]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Conrad+C  wrote

The new Lightroom Classic CC has both performance improvements and support for the D850.

I'm not a "spray and pray" shooter so don't import thousands of photos and I have never had to complain about the ingest speed of Lightroom but I think the jury is still out on how much speed improvement there is in the Develop module using the sliders.  Most reviewers I have read and seen on YouTube that mention Develop slider speed improvement is 15% or less speed improvement which is good but not great considering this is a SPEED release.  It seems about the same to me except for going from photo to photo in Develop which appears faster and really helps.