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The recommended order for applying edits is:
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The new Generative AI feature is great. As we know in editing, time is EVERYTHING. The variations are very helpful. However, it would be awesome to feature objects/subjects such the masking option (e.g., select clothing, then allow AI to remove lint, whrinkles, etc.) Just a thought. Thanks again for all you guys do to improve the interface.
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Love the tool most of the time. But three times I was trying to get rid of a person and it replaced it with a cat? Like what? Second like ten times now when trying to remove an object it replaces it with a trash can. I even include the shadow when masking. I don't know why it seems to want to give me cats and trash cans. It is kind of funny but definitely needs to be fixed
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@defaultzsvgghqk9zs6: "But three times I was trying to get rid of a person and it replaced it with a cat?"
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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Absolutely impressed each and every time I have used this feature. Nails it first time the vast majority of times I have used it. Have only had to use refresh a couple of times. I like it!
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Does anyone have an issue when the Denoise facility is used after the remove tool?
i have found it resamples tge area with less impressive results to the initial action
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As recommended in the notes provided at top of thread (copied below for easy reference), denoise should be carried out before using Generative AI Remove
"he recommended order for applying is: Denoise - Heal (includes Generative AI Remove) - Crop/Edit - AI Selective edits. If you deviate from that you may see the removed object remains as a ghost image. If this occurs you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu."
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I think it is very helpful. But I agree with most people, it doesn't always remove properly. I think if you guys add an option to add or remove objet that the AI can reconize the request easily, than just asume that a little duck is better person in the background. (Yes, the AI added a duck to replace a person)
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@Kevin384309686zfj: "it doesn't always remove properly"
Almost all of the complaints with Remove replacing instead of removing are addressed by this article:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original unmodified photo and call out what you're trying to remove. Of the people who have done that in this thread, we've almost always been able to address the issue.
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Works OK for me. Just need to be paitent and redo it, if you want a better repair from the remove tool. It dose save time in most cases.
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Have used the removal tool several times on very basic objects and it continues to fail so I have to do it in Photoshop.
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@Alan3843523253g5: "Have used the removal tool several times on very basic objects and it continues to fail so I have to do it in Photoshop."
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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Loving the generative AI remove tool. Here's some feedback that might help:
1. When you hit refresh to "generate again," it would better to add the new variations to the list of existing variations, rather than replacing them. (Sometimes the first results are better, but they're lost.)
2. It'd be nice to have an "on/off" preview switch when choosing the variation, to see how it compares to the original image. This would be especially useful when trying to remove a distracting object from a photo whilst ensuring the result is true to the original image.
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@paulmphotos: "When you hit refresh to "generate again," it would better to add the new variations to the list of existing variations, rather than replacing them. (Sometimes the first results are better, but they're lost.)"
Agreed -- Photoshop builds a list of all the generated variations (as thumbnails). A tip: When you see a variation you like, create a new Snapshot preserving it (Cmd/Ctrl N). Then in the Snapshot panel, you can hover the mouse over all the snapshots to quickly compare which one you like best. Not as convenient as PS's UI, but it gets the job done.
"an "on/off" preview switch when choosing the variation, to see how it compares to the original image."
Click and hold the eyeball icon in the lower-left:
Opt/Alt click it and it becomes a permanent toggle.
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"When you see a variation you like, create a new Snapshot preserving it "
That's a good workaround. I'll try it.
"Click and hold the eyeball icon in the lower-left"
I didn't see that! Thanks, it works a treat.
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@Matthieu384426282szr: "it ALWAYS create a new object when i just wanted to erase the bbq leaving the white wall naked"
Your screenshot suggests you used Object Aware to select the barbeque. Sometimes Object Aware leaves a bit of the object unselected, it doesn't include subtle shadows or reflections, or it doesn't use a large enough boundary around the object.
So the first thing to try when this happens is simply to click Refine and select a larger boundary around the object, which usually corrects the problem.
I was able to quickly remove the replacement and the white outlines from your screenshot:
See this article for additional advice on how to use Remove to more reliably remove rather than replace:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
If that doesn't help, please attach here a JPEG exported from the original unmodified photo. Nearly always there's a simple tip that will correct the issue.
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Yup that worked, but that erased some flowers and make it less natural on some variations (not that bad on this photo but on others that could be a down for me). Thank you !
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Remove AI does not wotk on an image that is HDR combined from three different exposures in lightroom
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@Love.PhotoandVideo: "Remove AI does not wotk on an image that is HDR combined from three different exposures in lightroom"
I just did some tests with HDR merges and didn't see any problems with Remove. Most likely, your issue is unrelated to Merge. See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original merged DNG and call out the object you're like to remove.
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I can see it sometimes conflicts with denoice AI. If I removed something and then I do the Denoice AI option it comes back with something strange I already wiped with the AI option. Seems the two are not yet in sync, so when I used AI on the original RAW, I then do denoice with AI, then I have to redo again the same action with Genarative AI to remove an object I didn't see anymore on the RAW. Can this be fixed? Regardless of this I love the options and work above expectations.
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@Dirk3844418208z3: "If I removed something and then I do the Denoice AI option it comes back with something strange I already wiped with the AI option."
According to the FAQ posted at the top of this thread, Adobe recommends this order for applying the tools:
"The recommended order for applying is: Denoise; Remove (includes Generative AI Remove); Crop/Edit; AI masking. If you deviate from that you may see the removed object remains as a ghost image. If this occurs you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu."
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@johnrellis Thank, as for me, denoice on 614 (iindoor) photos takes a very long time, so that was the reason for me to do it as last action when I am asleep. Thanks for your reply.
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Does this work also in the white corners you get with perspective correction/rotate (when you do not constrain crop to maximize image area)? So far LR has considered those areas not picture areas and thus uneditable (for some technical reason), but post headline says "across all surfaces". 🙂
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@F1XX: "Does this work also in the white corners you get with perspective correction/rotate (when you do not constrain crop to maximize image area)?"
Unfortunately not -- those corners are off-limits to all LR commands. You'd have to fix them in Photoshop.
"but post headline says "across all surfaces"."
That's Adobe's internal jargon for all the products in the Lightroom family: Classic, Desktop, Mobile, Web, Camera Raw.